Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE)

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject	Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE)
Date	2025-09-02 20:20 +0200
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On 2025-09-02 17:27, Graham J wrote:
> Daniel70 wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>>>
>> On the flip-side, my sister told me the other day that her Home Phone 
>> line was about to be upgraded to Fibre-to-the-Home.
> 
> In the UK this is called FTTP (Fibre-To-The-Premises) and it is supposed 
> to happen for everybody by January 2027, but it has been postponed 
> several times already.  One problem is that there are locations where 
> FTTP will never be available, and there's no rational alternative that 
> will work for everybody.  So it's likely that copper pairs will support 
> landline phones in such locations for at least another 50 years.

Hum. In Spain, those locations get radio of some sort. Copper pair is 
gone on Telefónica, the major provider. Another telco used fibre to the 
building, then coax to the premises.

> 
>> Ten/Fifteen years or so ago, our Phone system had been upgraded to 
>> Fibre-to-the Building for Business and those Home-owners who wanted to 
>> pay the premium for Fibre-to-the-Home. Everyone else just got Fibre- 
>> to-the-Node, i.e. the box on the nature-strip somewhere in the street, 
>> then twisted-pair wire to the Home.
> 
> In the UK Fibre-to-the-Node is called Fibre-To-The-Cabinet or FTTC. It's 
> fairly widely available except in crowded cities (no street space) and 
> rural areas (not enough paying customers).
> 
> A further difficulty is that there are still phone users who do not have 
> and do not want any sort of broadband service.  So these people are 
> being provided with a crippled router which drives a standard handset.
> 
> Clearly, the cost and maintenance of VoIP is way less than the cost of 
> copper pairs and exchange switchgear, so it's not surprising that the 
> telcos are moving this way.  But there's been no public explanation that 
> is meaningful to older users.
> 
> 


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 00:32 +1000
  Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-02 16:27 +0100
    Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:20 +0200
    Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 19:26 +0100
      Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-02 19:33 +0100
        Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 19:38 +0100
    Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:24 -0400
      Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-03 09:53 +0100
        Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:19 +0100
          Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-03 12:26 +0100
            Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 07:53 -0400
        Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 05:32 -0400
      Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:00 +0100
        Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 05:37 -0400
          Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 11:35 +0100
  Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 19:34 +0000
    Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:37 +0100
      Fibre [Was: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE)] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:58 +0200
        Re: Fibre [Was: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE)] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:38 +0000
        Re: Fibre [Was: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE)] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 09:45 +0100
          Re: Fibre [Was: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE)] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:54 +0200
            Re: Fibre [Was: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE)] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 17:16 +0100
  Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-03 11:15 +0200

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