Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 Subject: Re: Cars, engines... Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2025 14:19:19 +0100 Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <10guib0$1ai5r$1@dont-email.me> <10h15ek$2cgcb$1@dont-email.me> <10h6jb8$5cd2$1@dont-email.me> <51ahjklsu5lfhmac7rm518jqgb7g2h2n5c@4ax.com> <10hbi4e$1di3b$12@dont-email.me> <10hgacn$2nb2a$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 6sIj/O15D4fiDHaZrKeAHQLnAuqX79PlHPuD+q5KNF2ImEy5d5 X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:7GMw5WvtAQrEXlFyvvrRGye4Ub4= sha256:LjwI8IvR38HAYBSWsDzeVLKbfjCG/FWNg5Jlf0jpHfk= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: <10hgacn$2nb2a$1@dont-email.me> Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:78926 alt.comp.os.windows-11:28320 On 2025-12-12 06:49, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > On 12/11/25 18:42, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-12-11 22:28, rbowman wrote: >>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 11:11:00 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> >>>> The next car my father bought, a Peugeot 205, was the first we had with >>>> hydraulic clutch, same reservoir as the brakes. Bought maybe 1984. I >>>> remember the first time I drove it, my father warned me the brakes were >>>> brutal. Yet I was surprised by them, the car stopped brutally. Vacuum >>>> servo-assist. >>> >>> I don't think they do it as much anymore but automatic transmission cars >>> used to have very wide brake pedals, presumably to allow for braking >>> with >>> your left foot. Brutal was when your manual transmission muscle memory >>> kicked in, you attempted to hit the clutch pedal, and got the brake >>> instead. >> >> I never drove an automatic car. >> >> I guess my left leg kicks differently than my right, because the >> pedals have different feeling, specially when the brake was not >> assisted and I had to push really hard (decades ago). >> >> Steering was also an exercise. No servo. Cars were lighter, though. >> Not over a ton. >> > > Ah you are a European with sensible designers. In the USA a car > that weighed under a ton would be foreign made except for a few > lightweights back in the 1930s. > I do not think a family sedan such as my parents used weighed under > 2 tons. Of course that time was over 68 years ago. And steering was > real exercise and brakes were unassisted. Uff. Did they crash often, I wonder? Difficult to stop a 2 ton box of metal in time. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;