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On Tue, 12 May 2026 08:02:07 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:

> So you're saying that early Red Hat didn't offer at least X11/fvwm or
> WindowMaker as an alternative? I have difficulties believing that.

Dipping into 'Red Hst Linux Unleashed' from 1998 which came with a RHL 5.2 
CD there are instructions for installing KDE. First, visit the trolls to 
get the QT stuff and build it. That may or may not have required getting 
other tarballs the Qt depended on. Then get the KDE base, which included 
KDE's window manager, the libs, and the support packages and build them. 
Then get six additional rpms and install with 'rpm -i kde*rpm' 

"This process will definitely consume more than several hours of your 
time."

Or walk over to BestBuy and get SuSE Linux 8.1 in a box with all the 
installation media and hardcopy documentation. Your choice.

For windows managers you had twm, fvwm, fvwm2, AfterStep, and the default 
AnotherLevel, which was fvwm2 customized by Red Hat. It says GNOME could 
use any of them. That would be GNOME 1, I've bad memories of building 
Sawfish to try to update to GNOME 2. That was before GNOME 2 switched to 
Metacity.  By then I was GNOMEd out. Off to BestBuy. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozCoq4osSwk

Those were the days my friend, we though they would never end. Thank the 
Gods they did.