Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Wayland Makes Progress Date: 8 May 2026 19:05:03 GMT Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <10sv1kk$gjtg$1@dont-email.me> <69f472c8$0$10325$426a34cc@news.free.fr> <10t8gmr$37epi$4@dont-email.me> <18ac73d880b9a55f$7676$2865982$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <10ticho$263lq$3@dont-email.me> <10tkobp$2t91f$2@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net LM/gCjpHnZPkCegVEj6z8AB5ZywvKt3FmEi93sNAXREskBkZwY Cancel-Lock: sha1:pJQaakFPZCiq+17BA+Qx1d4VL+c= sha256:1UEQquszkKeCiGN5E0bOd8rv8FGvS6ePvz2PKo3046o= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:86248 On Fri, 8 May 2026 14:27:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Right now my limited exposure to Wayland does not make it an impossible > choice. Three of my machines are Wayland. One bare metal and a VM are X11. Without grepping for XDG_SESSION_TYPE I can't tell the difference. The only hint I got of a possible problem was with QGIS that popped a message box that dialogs might act strangely but that was rapidly fixed. However were I still working the legacy apps were Motif. No way would they work on a Wayland only system. Gtk and Qt both have a layer of abstraction where you don't get involved with the backend. Athena and Motif both require knowledge of the entire X infrastructure. Even worse neither lent themselves to a MVC approach so the business logic tended to get blended in with the presentation. You make a few tweaks and all is good; you rewrite from scratch. That's exactly what we did with a web based application. Of course clients had been muttering for years that the Motif GUIs looked 'old-fashioned'.