Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Wayland Makes Progress Date: 5 May 2026 01:09:11 GMT Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <10sv1kk$gjtg$1@dont-email.me> <69f472c8$0$10325$426a34cc@news.free.fr> <10t8gmr$37epi$4@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net lO+HCq7CKcW4HbdqhtEJzgmGNxoXbRYLpxehrfZNzG6hVcvEwR Cancel-Lock: sha1:Cfe7Fxd2fjYwdRyW5NjwklBzswY= sha256:TvBRywzHQ9xhAX9Ni75kc+HHn0rKfqX+PEMB6ifdXhA= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:86138 On Mon, 4 May 2026 12:51:17 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: > I've heard of XWayland, but wasn't sure whether it would just allow you > to run a particular app in a window, or provide a more comprehensive > compatibility layer. I can live without xpenguins and xsnow but it > would be the 'end of an era', as one of the first things that stuck in > my mind, when first using linux were all these cool little X toy > programs (like oneko), and to me they are an integral part of my > personal Linux experience. Many of those cool little programs depend on knowing more about other applications that they should. It was baked in. When you're working with Motif sooner or later you'll need to go down to the cellar with the mice and cockroaches. The O'Reilly X11 documentation consists of eight rather thick volumes depending on how you count starting with Volume 0, the X server protocol through 6B, the Motif programming manual. There wasn't the concept of building a GUI toolkit and isolating the programmer from all the implementation details.