Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.usage.english Subject: Re: GNU Date: 29 Mar 2026 23:34:02 GMT Lines: 74 Message-ID: References: <10pfhm2$aqf5$1@dont-email.me> <10phnao$113u1$6@dont-email.me> <1rsaf5i.1nrmqo3vtna18N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <1rsaj4d.rtb8ajbdoy69N%snipeco.2@gmail.com> <10pkqka$22prd$1@dont-email.me> <10ppr5m$3m2br$1@dont-email.me> <10pr6gg$2t5v$1@dont-email.me> <10pv2af$1eb4h$2@dont-email.me> <87zf3wx1jt.fsf@parhasard.net> <10pvhqb$1j2vg$1@dont-email.me> <1rsjtwr.9h8wo7a6jjujN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <10q2o7j$nr7l$1@news1.tnib.de> <1rsostx.1fumdje1pdrftiN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <1rsoqz0.19zzbh71ebfb7bN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> <18a11176d0ed8bfb$1717$2710841$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <10q9dle$u3sq$1@dont-email.me> <1rspefm.1yoofvr1xiiol1N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <10qbrlu$1qlt5$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 0ibCPcGZ0wvbzieNt9QBrgT4S4nx4lPwmYjED+fkZKBXUV64Aj Cancel-Lock: sha1:UdmWzx2UyG/EEA7I4Akt49PSYTs= sha256:3iDS1HXCuqfbrWL3Ma0fJLzhgtIqOAqcXMT3bvPlcQk= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:84525 alt.usage.english:1141479 On Sun, 29 Mar 2026 11:39:56 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > > On 3/29/26 00:13, J. J. Lodder wrote: >> Bobbie Sellers wrote: >> >>> On 3/28/26 10:28, Farley Flud wrote: >>>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 14:30:54 +0000, Sn!pe wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Education can have an effect, in the long run. >>>>>> The use of 'horsepower' for example has decreased markedly, >>>>>> after a generation of teaching SI. >>>>>> It may get stamped out, in the very long run, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jan >>>>> >>>>> True, more or less. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I favor the traditional units for quotidian use. >>>> >>>> First, let me say that I possess an advanced degree in STEM from a >>>> major US university. I was rigorously educated in the SI units. >>>> >>>> But SI units should be kept, where they belong, in the laboratory. I >>>> strongly prefer to buy my gasoline in gallons and not liters. >>>> I strongly prefer to purchase my potatoes by the pound and not the >>>> kilogram. >>>> >>>> Everyday living should be aloof from the strict precision of the >>>> laboratory. I have no difficulty is switching, as required, between >>>> the two mutually exclusive contexts, but technically uneducated >>>> people should not be burdened by this abrupt change. Tradition is >>>> something that is very difficult to break. >>>> >>>> In a lab context I measure power in SI Watts, but when I purchase my >>>> muscle car I examine only the Horsepower. >>>> >>>> It's like being multi-lingual. If you can't manage it then keep out >>>> of the kitchen and stay in your sterile laboratory. >>> >>> >>> Horsepower is but one aspect of power. In the distant past when >>> I rode >>> I cared as much about torque as horsepower in evaluation of >>> possible >>> motorcycle purchases. I could have happily purchased gasolilne >>> in >>> liters >>> though mileage was published as Miles Per Gallon. >> >> It is a common mistake to think of torque and power as very different >> aspects of engine performance. >> Actually, Power is Torque times Revolutions/second. (times a constant) >> (But this fundamental physics is usually hidden by expressing all of >> those in unsuitable units) > > Not quite. >> >> The only reason for their difference is that max power is developed at >> a higher rpm than max torque. >> However, torque and power characteristics don't differ that much >> between engines. > > Never looked at tests of Motorcycle engines, have you much? The first Japanese bike I owned was very docile until you got up to about 8000 rpm. I was used to Harleys that would start shedding parts if you could even get it to 8000. Different experience. The diesel trucks I drove red-lined at 1800 rpm.