Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting (religion) Date: 15 Mar 2026 02:32:38 GMT Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <10otpi4$1opu8$3@dont-email.me> <10otrqi$1p9ft$1@dont-email.me> <10ou2q9$1qp29$1@dont-email.me> <10oucet$vo4d$2@news.xmission.com> <10ouhk5$22anv$1@dont-email.me> <10ov1lu$27u8r$2@dont-email.me> <10ov2m4$296s5$3@dont-email.me> <10ov520$27u8r$5@dont-email.me> <10p0sjs$30rut$11@dont-email.me> <10p11k4$3l1sp$1@dont-email.me> <10p219n$3kl4p$5@dont-email.me> <10p24vv$3mphb$1@dont-email.me> <10p25ak$3mf5s$2@dont-email.me> <10p2odn$3u4p4$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net vUTyqInOcvFaDaW0DS+EGAs5zOQUuEkXSGz4URI7rvQn6DUnrM Cancel-Lock: sha1:pCevCmAyQXGxcBn1HpcR9YZAbyE= sha256:v4lwki5ozQMllcuo4wkhvFBODWRSA0y+fCia2RC3+eE= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.unix.shell:26746 comp.os.linux.misc:83016 On Sat, 14 Mar 2026 17:52:36 +0000, Richard Kettlewell wrote: > Have a read of > https://www.simonandschuster.co.uk/books/Domination/Alice-Roberts/ 9781398510111. > Constantine’s commitment to Christianity in particular is really rather > dubious. Sounds interesting so I got the Kindle version. Constantine, like many rulers, had a death bed conversion. If baptism washes away all your sins you'd better wait until you're on the verge of not being able to sin anymore. There was a good deal of conversion by the sword in the best Moslem tradition. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Verden Along with the stick a carrot was offered. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliand Russell's 'The Germanization of Early Medieval Christianity' takes the discussion further. A warrior race was a hard sell for a 'turn the other cheek' religion. It never really took as the Teutonic Knights waged the Northern Crusades to Chritianize the Balkan to say nothing of taking a whack at the Eastern Orthodox. They made it as far as Lake Peipus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_on_the_Ice Nevsky still is a hero to the Russians. Then you have the Holy Roman Empire with its feuds between the Guelphs and Ghibellines. It was a long strange trip.