Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.usage.english Subject: Re: GNU Date: 7 Mar 2026 23:07:03 GMT Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <10o629v$1qssb$1@dont-email.me> <10o6emj$1uql3$5@dont-email.me> <20260303111343.00000572@gmail.com> <20260304080130.000068c7@gmail.com> <10oab0q$39n4f$6@dont-email.me> <10ocqti$4fas$3@dont-email.me> <10od9kg$9cih$1@dont-email.me> <10odne1$d647$1@dont-email.me> <10odnsi$d647$2@dont-email.me> <10odop7$djnv$1@dont-email.me> <10odsq2$er59$1@dont-email.me> <1772787512-12588@newsgrouper.org> <10oeeru$kih0$1@dont-email.me> <10oeiea$lo5g$2@dont-email.me> <6our7mxi9i.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10oh35t$1g6or$1@dont-email.me> <10oh7cm$1h8of$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 5kOXq6rxXRThMALHFMq9ZgJknfAckfngjLVIarQjW1NfbtoTTz Cancel-Lock: sha1:D2W8HdM8Z5LGeN/KN99oKOW50pI= sha256:YHIJUyUI3DpPXXVO1JjwR9BCRjAta6h2Vmktc4LyPFA= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:82579 alt.usage.english:1138774 On Sat, 7 Mar 2026 13:57:58 +0100, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote: > Den 07.03.2026 kl. 13.01 skrev Carlos E.R.: > >>> I have learnt a bit of Spanish in  a course of one year, weekly >>> sessions. I can't make the rr-sound unless I produce a hurricane of >>> air. One of my daughters (or both?) can make that sound as quiet as >>> she likes, and so can her eldest son. So I don't think that it's so >>> much a question of previous language as the genetic abality to move >>> your tongue in different ways. But of course, if I had been born in a >>> Spanish- speaking country I would have learnt through practise. >>> >>> >> No, I don't think it is genetic. It is a learned ability when we are >> babies. > > To the best of my knowledge my daughter has never practised the sound. > It doesn't exist in Danish and she has not learnt Spanish or another > language with the rr-sound. The same goes for my grandson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QXJ3OXWaOY No way can I get that purring sound out of 'Messer' and other words with 'r'. It might be a stylistic affectation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeQG5rv592Q Whole different style but you don't hear a rolling 'r' in 'er', 'trägt' and other words that are in the 1931 movie version.