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Re: Heh Heh - New Fedora, HUGE Updates Needed

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On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 22:34:14 -0500, c186282 wrote:


>> fwiw, I think the Leap 16 VM would really like to do a bunch of updates
>> but I'm not going to. I did KDE after an extremely brief GNOME install
>> but with KDE on Arch and Fedora I really can't see what openSUSE has to
>> offer except 'zypper' instead of apt, dnf, or pacman for updates.
> 
>    Well, OSuse used to have some good GUI tools ... are they gone ???
> 
>    If not GUI then, well, apt/zypper/pacman/dnf and such are pretty much
>    the same and one is as 'good' as another.

Yast was one of the big selling points but Myrlyn is the new GUI package 
manager. It' okay and it says you can install yast2. I tend to use the CLI 
tools like zypper or dnf rather than the GUI. In most cases I know what I 
want and don't need to go shopping.

I downloaded the offline iso. It's huge, 4.4 GB which led to the learning 
experience that you need to format the USB stick to exfat. vfat can't do 
over 4 GB. Admittedly it has both GNOME and KDE, maybe even Xfce, and the 
LibreOffice crap. What it doesn't have is gcc and friends. It does have 
Python.

The KDE version is pretty much KDE same as the Fedora and Arch boxes. 
Other than Myrlyn I didn't see any special openSUSE secret sauce. 

>    Anyway, my immediate issue is wifi in the KVM machine. This is not
>    hard in VBox, but I've had a number of issues installing/using VBox
>    of late (as said here)
>    so the paved road, KVM/QEMU, may need to be walked for now.

I didn't do anything special on Fedora or the Pi's Trixie version, just 
pointed it at the iso and accepted the defaults. When I look at the VM 
Info NIC entry it shows a Virtual NAT and the 192 IP address. I didn't 
mess with it after doing the research and finding br0 isn't going to fly 
over a wifi connection.  

That makes sense to me. You can go out through the NIC to the ethernet 
router and it's going to assign a IP on the subnet but the wireless router 
doesn't work like that. No big deal except I can't access it from anyplace 
other than the host.  I can ping machines on the 192.168.1.x subnet. I 
haven't tried it but I probably could mount the NFS export with my music 
since it's * in exportfs.

 
>    Oh well, stuff to keep me busy ...

Yeah, time to go back to the Pi. I've played around with the Picos but 
never did too much with the GPIO on the Pi. I doubt it is as fast as the 
Picos because of the Cortex-A architecture but it works. 

The PiDog does fine with a 3+ but it has a hat between the Pi and all the 
servos, sensors, and so forth.

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Heh Heh - New Fedora, HUGE Updates Needed c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-01 01:40 -0500
  Re: Heh Heh - New Fedora, HUGE Updates Needed rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-01 18:13 +0000
    Re: Heh Heh - New Fedora, HUGE Updates Needed c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-01 22:34 -0500
      Re: Heh Heh - New Fedora, HUGE Updates Needed rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-02 06:51 +0000
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          Re: Heh Heh - New Fedora, HUGE Updates Needed "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-03 19:51 +0100
            Re: Heh Heh - New Fedora, HUGE Updates Needed c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-03 19:29 -0500
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              Re: Heh Heh - New Fedora, HUGE Updates Needed c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-04 00:09 -0500
                Re: Heh Heh - New Fedora, HUGE Updates Needed rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-04 19:17 +0000
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