Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: KaOS dropping KDE, going to Niri Date: 18 Feb 2026 19:20:51 GMT Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <10n0k8v$gv7l$1@dont-email.me> <878qcr5mv9.fsf_-_@atr2.ath.cx> <10n2ngj$24g3s$4@dont-email.me> <87fr6y7zla.fsf@atr2.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net jV4s7tNY+jjIzemXEApitA9I5t+CfLUV7CeYgiUUW3cC6uvI/H Cancel-Lock: sha1:npCrrD7wps8S5mUNsoTFaE5oeYk= sha256:8bXdHorhHTrA7IswhqnBb6eUqnhJraVWETLDep4aQpQ= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:82092 On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 12:04:17 -0500, jayjwa wrote: > Lawrence D’Oliveiro writes: > >>> Good luck using Linux without PAM, udev, or dbus on a modern system. >> >> Well, unless your definition of “modern” is circular (i.e. a system >> *with* PAM, udev and D-Bus) > Well, you got me there. My point was, that PAM is somewhat new in > Slackware and, once things reach a certain critial mass, everyone has to > jump on board with it. Such was the case with udev, PAM, dbus, > etc. systemd will be like this. I recently found out more about PAM than I really wanted to know on a Lenovo laptop running EndeavourOS. The laptop has a fingerprint reader that I was trying to get working and that required editing PAM files. I got it to work but it didn't work well with my use case. The laptop is usually on a KVM switch and reaching over to the reader to sudo was awkward. It would be better if using it as a laptop.