Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Date: 13 Jan 2026 05:01:17 GMT Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <10judtj$3eijl$2@dont-email.me> <10juqpa$3i6m5$1@dont-email.me> <20260110184115.4782eb44@coppelia.commodorejohn.com> <10jv43q$3kkhi$2@dont-email.me> <36F8R.627474$3Sk8.623325@fx46.iad> <10k2n44$29ube$6@dont-email.me> <10k31ru$2d8ro$3@dont-email.me> <10k3jn6$2josb$2@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net rC246I3fD20U06hIkJRiVg0a+VXLPpikKFWvySh0k5cHyF5vfc Cancel-Lock: sha1:rRWIuut4DmxXhlp/hRFBS7Zwk+o= sha256:DbigGFix8CFDOswfMXZ3VxTnmLGjw+DyNy+9Bgm1TqM= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:81042 alt.folklore.computers:233598 On 12 Jan 2026 20:16:39 GMT, Niklas Karlsson wrote: > On 2026-01-12, Scott Lurndal wrote: >> Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= writes: >>> >>>Aren’t you glad the Free Software world isn’t driven by marketroids? >> >> It's not? >> >> AI Overview >> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/ Eric_S_Raymond_portrait.jpg >> >> Eric S. Raymond (ESR), the well-known open-source advocate, began >> charging speaking fees for corporate events in 1999 but waives fees >> for schools and user groups; however, specific current fee amounts >> aren't publicly listed, requiring direct contact with booking agents >> or his website, though general estimates for similar speakers >> suggest fees could range from thousands to tens of thousands >> depending on the event and his involvement. > > Was ESR ever nearly as influential as he tried to make it look, though? > OK, so he got speaking fees (unclear how often or how much), but did he > have much effect on actual FOSS projects? It's hard to say how much effect he himself had but if you go back to 'The Cathedral and the Bazaar' the bazaar is doing very well these days. https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/platform/open-source Do you think Microsoft would get involved with a GPL project? How many other FOSS projects use the MIT, Apache, Zero Clause BSD, or other permissive licenses?