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On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 20:05:05 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote:

> Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
>>On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 17:03:19 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> To be fair, I'm sure a lot of computer people are doing this under
>>> duress, being ordered by the marketroids (who have the ear of
>>> management) to add yet another shiny thing.
>>
>>Aren’t you glad the Free Software world isn’t driven by marketroids?
> 
> It's not?
> 
> AI Overview
>    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/
Eric_S_Raymond_portrait.jpg
> 
>    Eric S. Raymond (ESR), the well-known open-source advocate, began
>    charging speaking fees for corporate events in 1999 but waives fees
>    for schools and user groups; however, specific current fee amounts
>    aren't publicly listed, requiring direct contact with booking agents
>    or his website, though general estimates for similar speakers suggest
>    fees could range from thousands to tens of thousands depending on the
>    event and his involvement.


He's not supposed to make a living. That is 26 year old news anyway. Even 
the photo is from 2004. I don't see anything about speaking on his website 
although there is some interesting material.

http://www.catb.org/~esr/guns/

He has pissed a lot of people off, including the Stalin, er, Stallman 
worshipers.