Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The Web (HTML) Sux Date: 27 Dec 2025 23:41:35 GMT Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <10i7khm$2e0ab$3@dont-email.me> <10i8lit$2ltf1$1@dont-email.me> <10i8u2b$2p3ha$1@dont-email.me> <69487137@news.ausics.net> <20251222135823.000042ea@gmail.com> <10icgk7$3rvck$1@dont-email.me> <20251222144314.000060d0@gmail.com> <10icj90$3snlp$2@dont-email.me> <20251222153725.000058b6@gmail.com> <10icl7j$3t6jc$2@dont-email.me> <10igm2u$10hm7$1@dont-email.me> <10ihdst$1aaqu$9@dont-email.me> <10ii5u3$1hc1p$1@dont-email.me> <10ilchu$2eq5v$4@dont-email.me> <694f0c5a@news.ausics.net> <10ioak7$3ae14$3@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net cfhVgo2DcSct4C0ZSBM1vQ47cL6ODR0pNNDKZ0hT3Ab0SE7DcE Cancel-Lock: sha1:eSv7DxdT7qZ87SFOaZDinQUXT44= sha256:iN/zKcG8NCzaSKZthav31fm8HKQxzr/Ub5PJobRPp88= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:79941 On Sat, 27 Dec 2025 09:58:31 +0000, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2025-12-27, rbowman wrote: > >> On 27 Dec 2025 08:29:46 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >> >>> That's fine, you want to write an application in a web browser, you >>> can do that. I won't use it because I think it's a wasteful and >>> fragile approach, but I'll find/write a native program instead. >> >> Real world scenario: The legacy system consisted of several Motif based >> GUIs, plus many backend daemons. For updates or bug fixes the GUIs have >> to be copied to several workstations in the dispatch center. >> >> It doesn't end there. In today's world every police car, fire engine, >> and ambulance has a laptop running applications. For bug fixes or >> updates with native programs you have to cycle each of those laptops >> through the shop, potentially a couple of hundred updates. >> >> Enter the web app. It runs in the browser, and is distributed from a >> central server. Update or make a bug fix on the server, all the client >> apps are automatically updated. >> >> Which is more resource intensive, has the most downtime, and has the >> potential for outdated native programs? > > This still leaves the browser and the system to be updated. And HTTP(S) > caching. > > I think the most sensible approach here could actually be the > purpose-specific non-web-application with versioning, so that several > versions can be run in parallel. Feel free to implement that in your industry. I don't mean that to be sarcastic but it would be bucking the trend. Public safety did back off from 'the cloud' a bit when the problems became apparent but in most sectors SaaS is the trend.