Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Date: 27 Dec 2025 23:01:33 GMT Lines: 61 Message-ID: References: <10if6e3$kag3$1@dont-email.me> <10igm6l$10hm7$2@dont-email.me> <10igpir$1086g$16@dont-email.me> <20251226090654.00000d42@gmail.com> <10innr9$36osk$1@dont-email.me> <10io80e$3ae14$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net uv6EcKPkdpIKnoFuLUk9TwJFiJTAswhxnAkKal344iC9XpmXBC Cancel-Lock: sha1:bF1oL3qwEzrdUSDKfOH5Ynf0Ajo= sha256:dt91+TBXpDQ92gaHLmjfIXnvgh6pP77CJOjuY/HV8aA= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:79933 On Sat, 27 Dec 2025 09:13:50 +0000, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2025-12-27, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >> On 12/26/25 19:56, rbowman wrote: >>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 20:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote: >>> >>>> The BIG differences between distributions are - initd vs systemd - >>>> RPM vs apt >> >> There are several other init systems in use as well though >> only the discerning can understand the differences in results. > > Even those classified as sysvinit can have significant differences, to > the point that, while not capable of some things, they're definitely > sufficient in a bunch of contexts. > >>> Well, sort of. There are .deb and .rpm packages. The Apt Package >>> Tool uses .deb packages. Most Debian derived distros I'm familiar with >>> use apt. >>> >>> There is a RPM Package manager that uses .rpm files (surprise), but >>> there are frontends for it too. Fedora did use yum but now uses dnf. >>> /usr/bin/ yum is a symlink to dnf. OpenSUSE has zypper and a couple >>> of other .rpm based distros have their own package managers. >> >> PCLinuxOS has been using Synaptic with .rpm packages for a >> long time but it seems it will going to DNF which seems less capable >> than Synaptic from my very limited POV. >> >> >>> Then there is Arch Linux and pacman. That's the odd one. Rather than >>> dnf update or apt update is pacman -Syu, with a similar syntax for >>> installs. There are ways, not recommended, to use .deb or .rpm >>> packages in Arch. I'm not that brave. Then there is the yay frontend >>> to the Arch User Repository (AUR) that's more like automating building >>> a tarball. >>> >>> There's probably other schemes given the 100+ distros. >> >> Some distros are built around a completely different package >> manager or aspire > > Portage says hi. > >> to "immutability" which I find a dubious and slippery concept. >> >> >>> You also missed the other big food fight, Wayland vs. x11. >>> >> It continues with a small group working on another x11 replacement. >> Wayland is supposed to support all of X11 functions but the demanding >> users know that it falls short in some areas. > > Which group is this? https://x11libre.net/ I find it concerning he starts off with a rant. Nothing against rants but they don't tend to have staying power.