Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 Subject: Re: Underground fires Date: 20 Dec 2025 04:48:44 GMT Lines: 45 Message-ID: References: <106mke5$1di32$1@dont-email.me> <10h4l1m$3mik2$1@dont-email.me> <10h9gr2$tuo4$1@dont-email.me> <10hb0cd$1a5kd$1@dont-email.me> <10hbkqn$1di3b$21@dont-email.me> <10hbo42$1fjnp$7@dont-email.me> <10hjfof$3ukif$1@dont-email.me> <10hjkgl$lr0$1@dont-email.me> <6rs81mx8nk.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <7a9e1mx6ep.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <6lsg1mxg46.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net l4N6fXtVj9Gn39DN3WyTswUYPgApmAfoWwbIIeDbhX7OPNQFfp Cancel-Lock: sha1:uI1mP6IozpAadAQoac0+4qyzJP0= sha256:lJJLRrus9SjgutRWTjnlWPWp8OQcnUxkOgCabZjtddk= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:79537 alt.comp.os.windows-11:28721 On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 22:28:38 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-12-19 03:01, rbowman wrote: >> On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 22:46:15 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >> >>> I have not heard of root fire in my country. Peat fire going on for >>> many months, yes. Rekindling a forest fire, yes. Crews remain around >>> for some time after the fire is put out. >> >> https://thebulletin.org/2021/03/underground-zombie-peat-fires- release-100- >> times-the-carbon-of-wildfires/ >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia_mine_fire > > Let me see if I understood. The city set fire to a garbage dump filling > the huge hole of an old open air mine, and the fire propagated to the > mine, which happened to be a coal mine? That's it in a nutshell. They thought they were dealing with a strip mine or basically a big hole in the ground that was filled with garbage and burning it was a good idea. They didn't realize the garbage was covering the entrance to a labyrinth of underground coal mines. Setting fire to garbage was illegal in the first place so they messed around trying to cover their tracks and kept getting deeper and deeper in shit. The miners followed coal veins so it was a real labyrinth. https://storyofbutte.org/files/show/5725 Butte was copper mines but the whole town is sort of sitting on an ant hill. There is a museum there that has so 3D models that were prepared for lawsuits that are really impressive. The suits occurred when Company A following a vein broke through into Company B's tunnels. I have no idea how they even knew where they were. Butte has the opposite problem to a mine fire. When they switched to an open pit and turned off the pumps in the underground mine tunnels the whole mess filled with highly toxic water. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Pit