Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 Subject: Re: Forests... Date: 15 Dec 2025 19:28:34 GMT Lines: 64 Message-ID: References: <106mke5$1di32$1@dont-email.me> <10gulau$1c5u8$1@dont-email.me> <10h14vm$2caj1$1@dont-email.me> <10h3tc7$3elsi$1@dont-email.me> <10h4eqq$3khj5$1@dont-email.me> <10h4l1m$3mik2$1@dont-email.me> <10h9gr2$tuo4$1@dont-email.me> <10hb0cd$1a5kd$1@dont-email.me> <10hbkqn$1di3b$21@dont-email.me> <10hbo42$1fjnp$7@dont-email.me> <10hjfof$3ukif$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net ip7KLq7QI0HCozCvG81Rlgmh2ht0fyVkrsAjsQO2DVx2VO8+eK Cancel-Lock: sha1:DvpYfYVL8/wFB5fu1tuF7QO/A2k= sha256:+R704UbeD+d93m3F6SIenQrEz3WFANnRBkjO6WR50is= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:79198 alt.comp.os.windows-11:28502 On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 02:59:06 -0500, c186282 wrote: > Well, the USA is pretty *big*. Not as big as Russia, but still pretty > big. > > It's also CHEAP ... don't expect many 'foresters'. I was seriously considering a second career in forestry and met with the dean of the NYS Forestry School that offers an accelerated program. He said most of the graduates either went to the longleaf pine plantations in the southeast or went into surveying. If you could get a job in the Forest Service you had to wait for somebody to die to advance. Years later I found he was accurate. Many people in this area take seasonal jobs hoping someday they will get a permanent slot. Seldom happens. > They've mostly done away with "fire-watchers" though. > Kinda too bad. They worked out of high towers ... maps and sextants. > As a kid we'd climb the tower and hang out with the forester. Great > view ! http://nhlr.org/lookouts/us/mt/blue-mountain-lookout-lolo-nf/ http://nhlr.org/lookouts/us/mt/stark-mountain-lookout/ The Blue Mountain lookout is manned if there is local fire activity. It's a nice hike although the trail goes through areas that burned in 2003 and still are pretty bleak. I don't know about Stark. I knew Virginia back in the late '80s and she wasn't a young woman then. You could always tell her on the radio when she croaked 'Stark'. The Nine Mile RD included the Great Burn area near the Idaho Divide and the tower acted as a radio relay. There are several other towers that you can rent for the weekend for the ultimate getaway. > As for 'raking the forests' ... CAN be a good idea, esp since > anti-fire campaigns caused massive debris to build up, but we're > talking major labor and machinery = $$$. Pols will 'discuss' it, then > do NOTHING. They need that money to fund Somali Islamists after all > !!! In the '30s the CCC did a lot of work in the forests and national parks. https://www.mtmemory.org/nodes/view/19006 There are remnants of a CCC camp at Nine Mile but I don't think the photo is from there. Among other things they built an airstrip used by the smoke jumpers. https://fortmissoulamuseum.org/exhibit/the-civilian-conservation-corps-at- fort-missoula/ The Fort Missoula buildings are still there. The Fort was also used as an internment camp during WWII, mostly for Italian seamen and workers from the 1939 World's Fair in NYC that were rounded up (while the US was 'neutral'). Back in the '30s there was an expectation you would work rather than sitting around waiting for your EBT card to be refilled.