Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 Subject: Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Date: 13 Dec 2025 20:06:20 GMT Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <106mke5$1di32$1@dont-email.me> <10gjub3$1934g$2@dont-email.me> <10gmh72$273r2$7@dont-email.me> <10gugbh$19phl$1@dont-email.me> <10gulau$1c5u8$1@dont-email.me> <10h14vm$2caj1$1@dont-email.me> <10h3tc7$3elsi$1@dont-email.me> <10h4eqq$3khj5$1@dont-email.me> <10h4l1m$3mik2$1@dont-email.me> <10h9gr2$tuo4$1@dont-email.me> <10hb0cd$1a5kd$1@dont-email.me> <10hbkqn$1di3b$21@dont-email.me> <10hbo42$1fjnp$7@dont-email.me> <10hjfof$3ukif$1@dont-email.me> <10hjkgl$lr0$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net AskqnI5UtAxgU9lcHhmZXQIREGspfUSGdeKn/2ojfTVPHK9nfT Cancel-Lock: sha1:M0P34Nwcpc5uYBH8WX+oDfrg+k4= sha256:x3X1Qudb1ud6HynpfleCL2igfUvDADGdq8Z9N6g64eQ= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:79024 alt.comp.os.windows-11:28376 On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 07:00:19 -0500, Paul wrote: > Usually on a clear cut lot, there are lots and lots of "stumps" and > nobody gives a shit about those. That's why the field in that video is > suspiciously "too good to be true". As the years pass, the stumps will > rot and be digested like normal. It's just the stumps are a hazard right > after a clear cut session. In this area, make that 'many years'. We had a bad fire in 2003 that took some areas down to mineral soil. Long after the fire stumps were still burning out the underground root systems. 22 years later you still have to be careful off trail not to step in a pit. The areas were not replanted so there are very few trees. The winter after the fire I went out snowshoeing and completely lost the trail that I had hiked often. You don't realize how much of a clue the brush along a trail is until there isn't any. There was also a small stretch with fairy slippers, a small orchid, that I liked as a sign of spring. The similar looking shooting stars have returned but not the fairy slippers. The corms have a relationship with soil fungus and that's all gone. The clear cuts here definitely don't look like a well prepared garden plot. The technique of leaving a few seed trees wasn't effective either. There's nothing left to shelter seedlings. The areas managed by the Forest Service have made out better. I've helped mark out a few timber sales. The trees to go are sprayed blue at breast height and the roots, the keepers orange. The lower paint is to keep people honest since you can tell what was cut from the stump. Often though the sale is never bid on since selective harvesting is more expensive.