Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 Subject: Re: Cars, engines... Date: 11 Dec 2025 21:28:38 GMT Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <10guib0$1ai5r$1@dont-email.me> <10h15ek$2cgcb$1@dont-email.me> <10h6jb8$5cd2$1@dont-email.me> <51ahjklsu5lfhmac7rm518jqgb7g2h2n5c@4ax.com> <10hbi4e$1di3b$12@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net EUN4ZD7z8+skUDF0K8o9dwx91B/wB6XOG+Ll1jzGUITL/+CQXD Cancel-Lock: sha1:OZw6rBSM8SmEX6fCjjcW7CUIaMw= sha256:3oNSeTl9qo3KXheU2n4EawFcCjofqpx0nlFSn6tUpq8= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:78839 alt.comp.os.windows-11:28272 On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 11:11:00 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > The next car my father bought, a Peugeot 205, was the first we had with > hydraulic clutch, same reservoir as the brakes. Bought maybe 1984. I > remember the first time I drove it, my father warned me the brakes were > brutal. Yet I was surprised by them, the car stopped brutally. Vacuum > servo-assist. I don't think they do it as much anymore but automatic transmission cars used to have very wide brake pedals, presumably to allow for braking with your left foot. Brutal was when your manual transmission muscle memory kicked in, you attempted to hit the clutch pedal, and got the brake instead.