Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: KDE Goes Wayland Date: 6 Dec 2025 20:23:26 GMT Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <10h13uq$2b64m$10@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net A4/6s+tViXKY8tnjicIIZwXoG9RGzakhhDI1H69+pO5QP783Bp Cancel-Lock: sha1:ST5VeXLsQQtZh9/OlRn92+ZchlY= sha256:IQikHxa63cah3RQmeZCvGggDdm1pvLfKf1mYIt4qn1k= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:702321 comp.os.linux.misc:78374 On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:27:22 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 06/12/2025 08:55, rbowman wrote: >> On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 23:30:45 -0500, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Wayland, at this point it's clear it will NEVER be ready for prime >>> time. They've been at it forever and it's STILL all weird. >> >> Currently I have 3 computers with Wayland and one with x11. No problema >> with any of them. > > That is reassuring to hear. > > I have no issues with dumping X windows. > > MAC OS-X worked fine without it. Insofar as anything apple ever works > 'fine' > > All I want is a GUI that does CAD and I can play a couple of games on or > watch videos Luckily I don't have to worry about legacy CAD (computer aided dispatch) software any longer. It has about a 30 year tail and was developed using Motif. With Motif sooner or later you're going to go spelunking past Xt and down into the bowels of Xlib to do stuff Wayland is designed to forbid. Also, with that long a history MVC has went to hell and business logic has found its way into Motif widgets. When we moved to a browser based interface using Angular the backend code remained the same but all the legacy UI was good for was a model. There is no easy path or magic wand for legacy X applications. I don't know how many still exist and are widely used. Somehow I don't think Xsnow will make it to Wayland. At this point it only snows on the wallpaper.