Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 Subject: Re: The "Standards" Game Date: 29 Nov 2025 20:25:46 GMT Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <106mke5$1di32$1@dont-email.me> <106vfvv$3bpmd$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <106vi4r$3c9cr$2@dont-email.me> <3ihcmlx47d.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <1070cqj$3jkmu$1@dont-email.me> <1071hu3$1idk1$1@news1.tnib.de> <9fjemlxbio.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <6jefmlxb6j.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10884l7$173em$1@dont-email.me> <1089ge2$1fvl9$8@dont-email.me> <10g52v4$3o78s$4@dont-email.me> <10g7bqf$j278$2@dont-email.me> <10gekqm$39ian$3@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 1M7thLI8BD31qjQtau0/VgG6cc1lnASFvMSEgPqNBQZnU/dcWW Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZlEsAAO7gCIhKh04p5SJZdfCEKU= sha256:UXBnvqa9KRFDkdMFjHFNbNkWUJslvMthn9Gwe+Mt7us= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:78076 alt.comp.os.windows-11:27704 On Sat, 29 Nov 2025 11:18:46 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > The government airship - the R101 - was a disaster. https://nationalsecurityjournal.org/the-u-s-navy-cant-fix-its-warship- crisis/ There were two competing designs for the Littoral Combat Ship program so they built both. Both sucked and could be taken out by a Somali in a Zodiac. The Zumwalt class had an embarrassing need to be towed home and had an advanced weapon system the Navy couldn't afford to but ammunition for. The next step was to buy what amounted to a COTS frigate. They made so many changes to the design it went over schedule and over budget. Fortunately the Arleigh Burke class motors on. For reference, that was featured in 'The Last Ship'. Then there's the F35 and other disasters.