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From: ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
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In article <10fuvrq$1dt14$1@dont-email.me>,
Anthk NM  <anthk@disroot.org> wrote:
>On 2025-11-16, Ted Nolan <tednolan> <ted@loft.tnolan.com> wrote:
>> In article <mnumuiF7n72U5@mid.individual.net>,
>> rbowman  <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>On Sun, 16 Nov 2025 09:49:10 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Natural Philosopher wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 16/11/2025 05:11, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>>>>> In article <10fasl6$3p4r1$3@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> Lawrence DÿOliveiro  <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 15 Nov 2025 18:48:51 GMT, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I find it takes a lot of munging to get vim to *really* work like
>>>>>>>> vi.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To me, that sounds like someone saying “it takes a lot of munging
>>>>>>> to get a Trabant to *really* work like a Morris Minor”. I
>>>can’t
>>>>>>> imagine myself wanting to use either.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, squids & kids, but my fingers do vi automatically.  Anything
>>>>>> else not so much.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find that depressing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I used to have to write reams of code in 'vi'. Horrible
>>>> 
>>>> I still do. (Though it is vim).
>>>
>>>Back to my original statement that most people who say they use vi are 
>>>using vim and would be very unhappy with vi. 
>>>
>>
>> I would not.  Lack of utf-8 would be an issue for some things, but
>> mostly not.
>
>With nvi (nvi2 under OpenBSD ports) I just set at ~/.exrc
>
>set showmode ruler
>set ts=2
>set ht=2
>
>And done. A status line, the mode line, sane tabs and Unicode.

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