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Re: GNU

From Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.usage.english
Subject Re: GNU
Date 2026-04-08 15:25 -0700
Organization Dis One
Message-ID <mn.439d7ea402aecc16.127094@snitoo> (permalink)
References (17 earlier) <n33s2cFmhfpU12@mid.individual.net> <1rt8r7d.3tmi1n1123mcrN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <10r5a46$3g0kp$1@dont-email.me> <1775661561-12588@newsgrouper.org> <10r644i$3ohtf$2@dont-email.me>

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On Wednesday, Nuno Silva yelped out that:
> On 2026-04-08, athel.cb@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> posted:
>> 
>>> On 08/04/26 17:59, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I see on your site that there are things called 'Double Dutch Ovens'
>>>> What is it that makes a Dutch Oven 'Double Dutch'?
>>> 
>>> They are the ones that nobody can understand.
>>> 
>> Can someone explain to me why companies who make things like computers and 
>> portable telephones love to introduce new "features" that no one wants or
>> needs and whose main effect is to make the thing more difficult to use? My
>> (oldish) iPhone has real physical button at the bottom that I use all the
>> time. When my wife's more fancy iPhone came out they decided to replace this
>> with a touch-screen "button" that is a pain in the neck to use. Why?
>> 
>> Our bank is just as bad. I probably should check our current account every
>> month, but in practice it's more like every three or four months. Almost
>> every time I find they've changed something to make accessing the account
>> more difficult.
>
> At this rate, probably either because a magazine CEOs read says it's the
> new thing to be done, or because someone's premium brand new device
> includes that change and so it must be changed everywhere by decree of
> the suits.
>
> (Compare with the GenAI hype.)
>
> I've seen ATMs with a fixed number of buttons on the side, perhaps
> bottom too. Would it be too hard to at least have this sort of stuff in
> smartphones, at the very least on the bottom, but perhaps on the sides
> too, as a sort of improved interaction system, for those phones that
> really don't want to have a physical E.161?

On my phone, a Pixel 7, I have more problems with the physical buttons 
than with the touch screen buttons.  There are 3: power, volup, and 
voldn.  The power button locks the screen or brings up the wake screen, 
but it also is connected to other stuff and it matters how you press it 
when.

To address the "why" of removing physical buttons on a phone, those 
take up volume inside the case that is scarce (phones are thinner, and 
more powerful electronics are crammed inside).  As a lesser impact, 
more buttons means more places for the case to fail (water resistance, 
impact resistance, dust seals, etc).

/dps

-- 
Who, me?  And what lacuna?

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Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-04-08 09:59 +0200
  Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-04-08 20:19 +1000
    Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-04-08 13:50 +0200
    Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-08 15:19 +0000
      Re: GNU Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-08 16:03 +0000
      Re: GNU Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-08 18:43 +0100
        Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 15:25 -0700
          Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-09 11:57 +0100
      Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-08 20:13 +0100
      Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-09 08:42 +0200
  Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-08 18:36 +0000
    Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-04-08 20:57 +0200
      Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-09 04:05 +0000
        Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-04-09 10:31 +0200

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