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On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 11:15:16 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 31/10/2025 20:01, rbowman wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 Oct 2025 14:48:43 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> 
>>> Catalan is different, quite different, but it is a language on its
>>> own.
>>> And there are other regional languages. I can not understand a speaker
>>> of those languages, just some words.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swabian_German
>> 
>> There is the 't' and 'd' shift that Lawrence mentioned for US English.
> 
> Germanic, Dutch and German and Yiddish definitely migrate 't' towards
> 'd' and mangle past participles. And blow 'w' into 'v'
> 
> A lot of rural immigrants were from Holland, in the past.

Even in the colonial days there was a significant Dutch/German population 
in the US. According to the 2000 census, which I think was the last time 
they asked, 27% of this state claimed German ancestry, followed by 14.8% 
Irish, 12.6% English, and 10.6 Norwegian.  The Indians were 7.4% for some 
diversity.

A friend claimed the local Sons of Norway lodge was mostly Germans. They 
have a really nice clubhouse, might as well invade.

I won't claim it's genetic but I had a hell of a time with 'th' when I was 
a kid.