Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Date: 14 Oct 2025 22:05:10 GMT Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <10bhmfu$3vti3$5@dont-email.me> <10bhq58$uqv$2@dont-email.me> <10cg20a$1dscj$1@dont-email.me> <1NucnWh3DZq7NHH1nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <3pc1slx9ti.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10cl3np$2q6c4$3@dont-email.me> <10cl8r6$2q6c4$18@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net zMGgHCGnsEDmXJekMQL2ow1fA+uYM+1YRWB9ktNMPLUqoAme81 Cancel-Lock: sha1:yYU5TPTI48DG4K9aA4xIt9zR5Fo= sha256:Y0vsSJ4OsVs4Q8aUQAIo3JeSJwkao2AqxQoyvqJrxQM= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:76136 On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 12:45:07 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-10-14 12:32, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 14/10/2025 11:06, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >>>> Composite timing belts that snap every 100,000 miles... >>> >>> Some are submerged in oil and break earlier. They decompose, clog the >>> oil filter with debris, and the engine is totalled because of oil >>> failure. Who was the idiot that thought submerging a rubber belt in >>> oil was a good idea? >>> >> Well you are supposed to *change* them, and the oil they run in, >> regularly... > > Even if you do, they break way before their due time. > > It is a known issue, well published. So far that seems to be mostly a European thing. The engine in my Toyota uses a chain. I did have a Geo, which was a rebadged Suzuki, had a dry belt. I didn't know the car's history but it was getting up toward 100K miles so I changed it. It was tight quarters but I've had worse jobs. The belt on my Harley failed at 47K. It was quite odd. I came out from work, jumped on the bike, put it in gear, and nothing happened. The belt broke straight across with no real sign of damage. I'd always worried about rocks when riding on gravel roads but didn't see any evidence of that. The new belt was about $150. That sounds pricey but compared to replacing chains and sometimes the sprocket plus the maintenance it was a good deal in the long run. Like belt in oil systems it was driven by the need to meet the noise requirements rather than a pure engineering decision.