Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Desalinated water Date: 23 Sep 2025 05:27:01 GMT Lines: 63 Message-ID: References: <9fjemlxbio.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10afh2l$3hcc0$1@dont-email.me> <10ag0tf$3l3a7$1@dont-email.me> <10agpn4$3qpp8$2@dont-email.me> <10ah9i6$3v8gp$1@dont-email.me> <10ai0bj$599f$1@dont-email.me> <5FLzQ.110783$OHH2.12315@fx14.iad> <10aoava$1jlb8$1@dont-email.me> <10aq40u$226u4$1@dont-email.me> <10arceg$2argp$1@dont-email.me> <1rq7qlxm4i.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10askgh$2m1mf$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 0XPTVLVm67VqvL9UBrzUWAe7SZW0y8i48oBinggSXFvc7+pt28 Cancel-Lock: sha1:DebLSzZZaHTb7WIMGyBb5LwnLGA= sha256:WQrIHNGVjVqBj6n/7d5UZtXwHOzWFx+e7+BRnjKD19M= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:74918 On Mon, 22 Sep 2025 16:01:36 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > You are totally correct however the Northern California area bases > all of its water systems on the expectation of adequate snowfall in the > Sierra Nevada. Southern California borrows from Northern California and > the Colorado River which don't run near California. I think 'borrow' implies you're going to give it back. Not happening. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuma_Desalting_Plant I've never been in Yuma when the plant was running. The last time I was down that way the tide was out at Lake Merde. I admired the Art Deco spillways at Hoover Dam that haven't seen water since the Reagan Administration. Las Vegas was building a third intake. That's another city that shouldn't exist. Long before that there was the Alamo Canal that allowed crops in the Imperial Valley and also created the scenic Salton Sea, another ongoing headache for California. Then there is the CAP, which among other things allows growing cotton in the Arizona desert. The climate may be changing, as it always has done, but some of the disasters in waiting are entirely the result of short sighted human terraforming projects. > We in San Francisco benefit from the foresight of the early > 20th Century outraged naturalists put aside and got the O'Shawnessy Dam > built to use the Valley of the Hetch-Hetch for a resevoir, then the > water crosses the Central Valley and the Coastal Range to deliver water > to the Peninsula and most particularly to San Francisco. https://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5720/ I've stood on Muir Rock in Kings Canyon. Luckily it isn't underwater. > Other systems are built on the flood control dams like Shasta > and Folsom as well as many others. Some of the systems were set up for > Farming by the Federal Government and when Trump said that he released > water for Los Angeles that farmers water was what he was talking about > and due to the separation of systems none of that water went to LA but > dumped water into the farming system which at that time of year was > absolutely a waste. How is Shasta doing? I drove by there frequently in the '90s when they were building boardwalks from the former boat launch sites out to the water. > Also when the Dams were constructed most were built without > considerations for the salmon runs. That has destroyed the salmon runs > on the main rivers. We are lucky in that wild rivers remained but that > is why the price of salmon is so darned high. At least Mulholland didn't design them. He wasn't involved but hopefully the Castaic and Pyramid Dams continue to hold water.