Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Masks, Covid... Date: 18 Sep 2025 03:07:02 GMT Lines: 48 Message-ID: References: <108kv17$73g4$5@dont-email.me> <20250827165330.81eb46a2f8f86d5efb83f0c7@127.0.0.1> <108nnmo$t297$1@dont-email.me> <108q123$1g1ph$1@dont-email.me> <108q9ne$1ieq4$1@dont-email.me> <10a3pjn$egqn$1@dont-email.me> <10a4el4$km8l$2@dont-email.me> <10a5s8v$1360o$5@dont-email.me> <10a60uc$148fh$1@dont-email.me> <10a6r88$1d082$1@dont-email.me> <10a8gq3$261sn$1@news1.tnib.de> <10ab8n3$2fauo$2@dont-email.me> <9droplx3a.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10adu48$33sb9$6@dont-email.me> <10afk2d$3hppa$3@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net vnBL+VqHCkdFSwI/nK49jgNPzJvTgT1XsDJt7YBaasrYJ04bEL Cancel-Lock: sha1:Z+FE62Hkps1PUYVcHP4vI9ZDGYo= sha256:qiMCw4VF6gylti1lhSLol7iglJypAHz/OdgNvTG5hCk= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:74444 On Thu, 18 Sep 2025 01:34:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 17/09/2025 20:34, rbowman wrote: >> On Wed, 17 Sep 2025 10:13:44 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> I got a letter from the NHS advising me that a medication I take >>> regularly - and which is extremely expensive - is now 'out of patent' >>> and will be supplied by whichever 'generic supplier' offers it >>> cheapest. >> >> Part of the scam for 'new, improved' drugs is they can be patented. >> Some cynics pointed out that covid was a life saver for Pfizer; the >> patent for their cash cow, Viagra, expired in 2020. They stumbled into >> that one. It was supposed to be a heart medication but clinical trials >> showed no effect on the heart health although the participants had >> erections. >> >> I only take one medication, an ACE inhibitor, and it's a toss up of >> whether I need it or not. I filled the prescription yesterday and the >> cost has risen to $16 for a three month supply from about $11 a couple >> of years ago. At that price and with no side effects that I've noticed, >> I err on the side of 'what the hell'. The patent expired about 20 >> years ago. > > Ace inhibitors have serious effects on the kidneys https://www.kidney.org/kidney-topics/ace-inhibitors-and-arbs "ACE (angiotensin converting enzyme) inhibitors and ARBs (angiotensin receptor blockers) are two types of oral (taken by mouth) prescription medicines commonly recommended for people with kidney disease. They represent two different medicine categories but work in similar ways. These medicines have been used in the United States since the early 1980’s. They are considered “kidney protection” medicines – they can help keep your glomeruli (small filters in your kidneys) healthy and lower your urine albumin-creatinine ratio (uACR) level. They can also lower your risk of cardiovascular disease (CVD, including heart failure, heart attack, or stroke)." It would appear so but not in the way you mean, https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/hc4101.096153 https://www.pharmacytimes.com/view/long-term-use-of-ace-inhibitors-may- cause-kidney-damage-study-results-suggest Love The Science. One of my favorite phrases is 'a study suggests'.