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Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?

From 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?
Date 2025-09-14 06:34 +0200
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W dniu 14.09.2025 o 00:00, Lawrence D’Oliveiro pisze:
> On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 15:28:40 +0200, Jacek Marcin Jaworski wrote:
> 
>> Individual programmers start free and open software
>> movement, but now it is pure controlled by huge corpos.
> 
> Once they contribute the code, they no longer “control” it.

Remember about business rule older than our Universe: "Who pay, will 
also demand.", and: "Who pay, will also decide.".

For e.g.: What is the advantage to be Micro$lop customer when they sold 
piece of crap in the nice cover?

The same is true for huge corpos which decide free and open source way 
of coding. This is the reason why almost all free and open source 
programs break the great "zero conf" design rule (but note: all banking 
aps respect this rule). This is the reason why many free and open 
programs are monoliths and there is no way to extend via simple plugins 
(note: KDE Krusader). This is the reason why huge corpos hide plugin doc 
for rare modular programs they created (note: KDE Develop, Qt Creator, 
Visual Studio). This is the reason why they create monoliths programs 
with code unable to reuse in spite lack of the alternatives (note: KDE 
Okular and its unique PDF and ebook rendering engine embedded directly 
in to main program code, instead be set of reusable shared libraries. 
PDF and ebook rendering libs are largely needed for many business and 
private projects. KDE Ocular programmers effectively prohibits other 
free and open source programmers from make many great programs which 
should render PDF and ebook docs easily. This force me to code my own 
PDF rendering widget).

So your above comment is very stupid. And it seems you have no idea 
about good and bad software, and apparently you have no idea about the 
free and opens source pathology I mentioned above. The Linux activists 
from the West should do what I did in Poland: develop free ebook with 
good design and programming rules, like my free (as free beer) PDF:

<https://energokod.pl/monografie/Arch.%20Prog.%20Nieuprzywilejowanych.pdf>

and you should investigate how free and open source projects respect 
them, and you should raise public discussion about the pathology like 
above. After my investigation I know well, that current free and open 
soft suffer in many ways instead be "art of code" - currently it is 
coded exactly in opposite way, only slightly better than Micro$lop Winblows.

And tell me why Micro$lop donate in to free and open source world? I 
know: they want turn Linux in to Winblows like piece of crap. If Linux 
Foundation likes blood money form Micro$lop, some day they will be 
thinking in the same way, and they will be do the same as M$. LF should 
kick Micro$lop and every corpos associated with it, otherwise they and 
Linux will be lost quickly. In Polish we know that old rule well, and we 
have good proverbs:

"Kto z kim przystaje takim siÄ™ staje." sense in English: "You will be 
the same as persons in your area.".

"Kto trafi między wrony musi krakać jak i one." sense in English: "If 
you are between crows then you must behave like that crows.".

-- 
Have a nice day!
Jacek Marcin Jaworski,          Pruszcz Gd., woj. Pomorskie, PL🇵🇱, EU🇪🇺;
tel.: +48-609-170-742, najlepiej w godz.:     5:00-5:55 lub 16:00-16:55;
<jaworski1978@adres.pl>,  gpg: EBFD1A464130993FBBC230FE221740E87CE10580;
Domowa s. WWW (WYSZUKIWARKI JÄ„ POMIJAJÄ„!!!):     <https://energokod.pl>;
Mini Netykieta:               <https://energokod.pl/MiniNetykieta.html>;
Mailowa Samoobrona:               <https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/pl>.

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  Re: What Thinks Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-09-13 13:23 +0000
  Re: What Thinks Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Jacek Marcin Jaworski <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-09-13 15:28 +0200
    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-13 22:00 +0000
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        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-13 23:04 +0000
        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-14 09:01 +0100
          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-14 21:17 +0000
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              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-15 08:19 +0000
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                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-15 09:03 +0000
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                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-15 22:29 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-16 08:23 +0200
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                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-16 22:12 +0100
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                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-15 22:35 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-16 02:09 +0200
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-16 01:12 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-09-16 05:47 +0200
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-16 05:48 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-16 12:57 +0200
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-17 05:56 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-17 11:15 +0200
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-17 09:31 +0000
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