Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.defense Subject: Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] Date: 10 Sep 2025 19:36:44 GMT Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <106mke5$1di32$1@dont-email.me> <106vfvv$3bpmd$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <106vi4r$3c9cr$2@dont-email.me> <3ihcmlx47d.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <1070cqj$3jkmu$1@dont-email.me> <1071hu3$1idk1$1@news1.tnib.de> <9fjemlxbio.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <6jefmlxb6j.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10884l7$173em$1@dont-email.me> <1088lbg$1agt7$1@dont-email.me> <9aadne5uMN4JgTX1nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> <108am3a$1pga7$6@dont-email.me> <108c5on$234t5$16@dont-email.me> <109mlpa$aju3$1@dont-email.me> <109ouee$t9ek$5@dont-email.me> <109rdk3$1ilji$7@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net mWKSlYwuq6bWWwbMf7qjoQC64QZYwVZgsI3JYB0dIOvzOdZruO Cancel-Lock: sha1:Bpuh6aCQH0dI7JGLz8tniN90p2o= sha256:mFE+h4dXMw6KyOsxjMIaUnTTPkA1zpt10zXocZh1NYI= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:73853 alt.comp.os.windows-11:24048 On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 09:41:39 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 09/09/2025 20:09, rbowman wrote: >> How many million live would have been saved if the US didn't send >> materiel and money? WWI may have been as short and sweet as everyone >> thought it would be. > US involvement in WWI was so small as to be completely irrelevant. > > Even WWII it was fairy minimal in terms of 'boots on the ground' and > deaths US dollars and materiel were not irrelevant in WWI or WWII. Britain fought both wars on borrowed money it could ill afford, using materiel it could not produce. A further injection of money after WWII kept it afloat as Atlee tried to finish the job Germany had started. He did a great job. Jaguar Land Rover is now owned by TATA, MG Motor is owned by SAIC, a Chinese company, and the Bavarians are building the conic mini along with Rolls-Royces. VW got the Bentleys. The history of BAE Systems is too confusing to parse. Who owns that? You couldn't even hold on to Cadbury, now owned by Mondelez. The Empire is gone with the wind. Maybe those wars weren't the greatest idea? Meanwhile Starmer is writing cheeks his ass can't cash.