Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Electricity Supply Date: 10 Sep 2025 01:35:41 GMT Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <109ebs9$2ah8c$1@dont-email.me> <109eepn$2acbn$8@dont-email.me> <109gv2r$2uh32$7@dont-email.me> <109i5ic$38ia1$1@dont-email.me> <68bcaa1d$0$12933$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <109ibsc$39t9h$1@dont-email.me> <68bd8d67$0$3357$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <109k5b3$3lh1f$2@dont-email.me> <109k853$3m68p$2@dont-email.me> <5efe6b5b-e2ee-49df-9380-f18144cb3af2@dslextreme.com> <109md52$7ige$11@dont-email.me> <109n6j0$f7tf$3@dont-email.me> <4AidnRdNN9tHDl31nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net eid/5Xk6FHLbguOo2BmAaQYySh1fV8VD77P/dNP3yqLKKcxN11 Cancel-Lock: sha1:iLiFY0fzCIMPkmbYvVlvF7lFCbw= sha256:HH6qsbgnsXjKSg9n5j2J2IrfaFECUY35pUiO3X+MF04= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:73798 On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 16:53:38 -0400, c186282 wrote: > On 9/9/25 3:23 PM, rbowman wrote: >> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 04:52:46 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Plato said we generally can't TELL what's reality and what's the >>> shadows. We build our world-model based on the prolific shadows >>> ... >>> and then are shocked and disoriented if actual reality intrudes. >> >> So you're a Platonic idealist who thinks the true reality are the >> Forms, >> human created abstractions? > > Lean a bit more towards Buddha for this one ... knowing that our > range and depth of perception is greatly limited by what kind of > things we are, the environment we evolved to occupy, the limits of > mind and senses. We will ALWAYS see the 'shadows', peer at the > universe through a keyhole whilst wearing human-colored glasses. > > Oh well, we'll do our best ... https://zmm.org/teachings-and-training/liturgy/heart-sutra/ Oh Shariputra, form is no other than emptiness, emptiness no other than form. Form is exactly emptiness, emptiness exactly form. Sensation, conception, discrimination, awareness are likewise like this. Oh Shariputra, all dharmas are forms of emptiness; not born, not destroyed, not stained, not pure, without loss, without gain.