Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 Subject: Re: Worship ... Date: 2 Sep 2025 03:53:51 GMT Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <106mke5$1di32$1@dont-email.me> <107cipt$2g8mr$9@dont-email.me> <107f281$35moq$4@dont-email.me> <107hlce$3pna1$9@dont-email.me> <107jlcc$8oas$1@dont-email.me> <107kg7t$d4vh$23@dont-email.me> <107n8un$12hcd$24@dont-email.me> <107p2ug$1gv4l$4@dont-email.me> <108v0r0$2lb19$1@dont-email.me> <1091cq5$36o1d$3@dont-email.me> <7isdolxkb.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <1091j8k$38g52$1@dont-email.me> <1093ov5$3ophr$2@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net zUGoRWxEwDnukOm3cVeT+QYRDqsjsJ5eETAGQQ1C5ogzUZNK4Z Cancel-Lock: sha1:xicT7IJL5Zmh/YX2/vALfeedP7U= sha256:Zzs6RJj0m0p7p3HBzRBIeY45ZiJeKqH//r8TfqzPUoo= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:72964 alt.comp.os.windows-11:23530 On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 18:41:00 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote: > On 01/09/2025 07:32, c186282 wrote: >>> Wonder, what WERE they worshiping at Gobekli Tepe >>>   and related places, 12,000+ years ago > > On 2025-09-01, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> I don't think they did 'worship'... > > According to several UU ministers, "Worship" comes from an old English > word meaning "to shape that which has worth". "UUs are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you’re going to get.” Apologies to Forrest Gump. https://cooljugator.com/etymology/en/worship I'll go with 'The state of being worthy' rather than that somewhat awkward syntax. Rather than etymology the real question is what worship implies in a given culture. Even muddier is adoration versus veneration. Are both worship? Many Protestants consider the veneration of saints to be the worship of idols. Did the Germanic tribes worship their Gods in a manner Christians would recognize? After all Wotan wasn't considered very trustworthy, Donar was mighty and also a bit slow. Then there was that cross-dressing thing. Freyja and the four dwarfs might have been Christian slander. Who knows? Even the Greeks thought the Gods screwed around with humans when they were bored but had problems of their own too.