Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 Subject: Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Date: 27 Aug 2025 21:43:04 GMT Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: <108aefl$1n7i9$9@dont-email.me> <108hddu$3bl64$2@dont-email.me> <108leod$b9i7$1@dont-email.me> <108mli5$k17h$1@dont-email.me> <108moro$ktk8$1@dont-email.me> <108muat$m6bo$1@dont-email.me> <1qg3olxic8.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <3604olx0ce.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net dGsv+px9WdgnGqgJ05QxmgsuR9l1iY3WNRv7R5zT9vO5dMZNly Cancel-Lock: sha1:SRbOY90K1bkIQWiDltw7z2k2xpM= sha256:naxejhVJmRHXMG1KXUO1vM1Ibyi8aBRdCj2Ffx6h8XQ= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:72430 alt.comp.os.windows-11:23091 On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 20:42:43 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-08-27 20:18, Char Jackson wrote: >> On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 16:20:17 +0200, "Carlos E.R." >> wrote: >>> On 2025-08-27 14:40, Daniel70 wrote: >>>> On 27/08/2025 9:06 pm, Graham J wrote: >>>>> Paul wrote: > > ... > >>> They use step down transformers from the distribution voltage to >>> secondaries with a connection in the middle: >>> >>> 115 \/\/\ /\/\/ 115 >>> | >>> 0 >>> >>> Ie, two opposite 115 volts lines. So yes, there is 230 in the house >>> for big appliances, like the cooker or the laundry. All sockets in the >>> house are 115, from one or the other line. The 230 volt sockets are >>> different and only in the rooms for those appliances. >> >> All correct, but it's most commonly referred to as 120/240. > > > Ah, I had doubts about the exact voltage. 110, 115, 120? I never > remember it. 119.4 today :) https://www.electricaltechnology.org/2023/03/standard-voltage-levels-in- us.html "Good to Know: Beginning in the 1920s, 110V was the standard. This gradually increased to 115V in the 1930s and then 117V in the 1950s, but was rapidly replaced by 120V in the 1960s. The National Electrical Code (NEC) officially declared 120V as the standard voltage in the 1968 and 1984 editions." The generating plants didn't increase the voltage uniformly and what people called it changed even slower. I'm old enough that it was called 110. If you really want to know what it is, stick a meter on the socket. If they fiddle with the voltage too much you have a brownout. Most things can handle 110 - 125.