Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.szaf.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 Subject: Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Date: 24 Aug 2025 19:37:51 GMT Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <106mke5$1di32$1@dont-email.me> <107hhhe$3pitk$1@dont-email.me> <4N6cnRbbIKoU0AD1nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> <107lq4b$p5vg$7@dont-email.me> <107n9cb$12hcd$28@dont-email.me> <107ng5n$15rfj$1@dont-email.me> <107oprl$1f6pb$4@dont-email.me> <107pm1g$1l5v2$1@dont-email.me> <107rbde$20k71$20@dont-email.me> <107v689$3219t$1@dont-email.me> <1080mev$3fk4r$1@dont-email.me> <1081cin$3kivt$1@dont-email.me> <2W2pQ.10557$uCGc.6020@fx14.iad> <108428t$7mtq$4@dont-email.me> <108aefl$1n7i9$9@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net /Ov8oowCrqLKivOYXqrsVg9iVqSHjFJguqzbQUpfOy3/y+zCSD Cancel-Lock: sha1:r7aH1Ca5IOrq2etFwaTJ/H8lJD4= sha256:/LSs3+ZL8hFXF15Bq6K/bkoUNLydRuca53xVB0uuTA0= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:72179 alt.comp.os.windows-11:22889 On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 14:15:19 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-08-23 06:42, c186282 wrote: >> On 8/22/25 2:55 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 22/08/2025 19:19, rbowman wrote: >>>> The EPA imposed fleet fuel economy regulations on vehicles but >>>> exempted light trucks from many of the requirements. Put a shiny body >>>> on a pickup chassis and, voila, the SUV was born. Of course there >>>> always were vans built on light truck chassis but without rather >>>> expensive conversions they were noisy, uncomfortable, and almost >>>> impossible to heat in the winter. >>> >>> Over Here it was the other way around. Small cars didn't have enough >>> storage capacity or visibility so they put bigger bodies on them 4WD >>> and bigger tyres. >> >>   USA ... models always get BIGGER AND BIGGER. > > The Tesla Cybertruck is so big that it is not road worthy in the EU. > Can't be certified, can't be insured. It isn't that big compared to a F-250 Super Duty Crew Cab. The Ford is almost 4 feet longer overall, a little less that a 3 foot longer wheelbase, The curb weight is almost the same but you have to consider the battery weight in the Tesla. The Tesla turning radius is smaller. Perhaps the EU doesn't have the selection of large US pickups. Around here the Cybertruck is only remarkable because it looks so weird not because it is big.