Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Date: 23 Aug 2025 05:29:35 GMT Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <106mke5$1di32$1@dont-email.me> <1079oe9$1ppd6$6@dont-email.me> <107ab26.3rg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <3rkmmlxplv.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <107cipt$2g8mr$9@dont-email.me> <107f281$35moq$4@dont-email.me> <107gjq8$3iasj$2@dont-email.me> <107gvbi$3lqmd$4@dont-email.me> <107j4le$5ipa$1@dont-email.me> <107jb12$6imt$5@dont-email.me> <107o8dl$1btq6$1@dont-email.me> <107pok7$1k377$26@dont-email.me> <107rasm$20k71$18@dont-email.me> <107s89h$279li$1@dont-email.me> <107vld7$365u2$2@dont-email.me> <1089n6r$1i3kj$1@dont-email.me> <20250822130056.000021f9@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net G/i0tyQ2a0Mqn/V5BKO6fAlCA408KkfUFec5dcRxCRz4GO3sd6 Cancel-Lock: sha1:ujQxDFfI9y0vL+jKdzDD35EJyLs= sha256:fInSdwLH+cP6jos6yFvALfgyP/UE7YZ57liYv48MVcM= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com alt.comp.os.windows-11:22773 comp.os.linux.misc:71994 On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 13:00:56 -0700, John Ames wrote: > On 22 Aug 2025 19:21:42 GMT rbowman wrote: > >> That turned me off history until my later years. I love looking at the >> big picture and how it all comes together but elementary school >> teachers favored tests they could easily grade and dates were as black >> and white as it gets. They also had a very tight focus. What else was >> happening in the world in 1215? What was Frederick II up to? >> How about the Danes? > > History is one of those subjects that's immensely fascinating, but gets > taught in exactly the way that's most likely to turn students off ever > taking an interest in it - much like reading, where even if the method > for teaching *how* to read isn't faulty (which it all too often is,) the > actual *reading a book* part is treated as nothing more than the > preamble to the hell that is book reports and dull-ass were-you-paying- > the-barest-minimum-of-attention quizzes. I was a reader at a young age. My father would read the comics and my favorite books to me while I was sitting on his lap. I loved Thornton Burgess. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thornton_W._Burgess One day nobody was available to read to me and I needed my Jerry Muskrat fix so I read it. They thought I was faking it until I read it aloud to prove I wasn't. I don't know how well that skill worked out in the long run. I skipped kindergarten and started 1st grade at 4 so I was always about two years younger than my classmates. That really sucked in high school when I wasn't old enough for driver's ed, let alone driving. I liked the books, the reports not so much. They expanded my vocabulary. My 7th grade English teacher didn't know what a octoroon was, let alone where I picked it up. My mother had left Frank Yerby's 'The Foxes of Harrow' lying around. I read it several times in fact. Set in the Antebellum South with a lot of action including duels, exploding steamboats, and the Civil War, what was not to like? Some of the more complex race relations more or less went over my head.