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On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 13:19:45 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> The USA has no history. Europe is the product of 10,000 years of Putins
> and Trumps , Mussolinis, Francos and Hitlers, Napoleons and Richard the
> Lionhearts, Saladins   and all the Kings and Barons ...we have *all* the
> T shirts.

The US has history! Why the first white settlement in this state is right 
down the road! The Jesuits founded it in 1841!

That is sort of recent but the history of the area where i grew up goes 
way back. Henry Hudson made it all the way up to my hometown in 1609 
before he ran out of water. He was sort of lost since he was looking for 
China but so it goes. 

The exact for the founding of New Netherland is a little vague, but 1624 
will do. It is worth noting it was not a English until England took it 
over after the Third Anglo-Dutch War treaty in 1674. There was always that 
low key feeling "We ain't New England".

For the US it is a pretty historical area. I've walked the battlefields of 
the French and Indian War (Seven Years War) and the Revolution. Gates beat 
Burgoyne at the Battle of Saratoga. France had been sitting on the fence 
and that victory got them off.

You're right, not too much history here. We did fight England twice and 
won so it's puzzling why we kept crawling back.