Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E. R." Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 Subject: Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2025 15:21:40 +0200 Lines: 60 Message-ID: References: <106mke5$1di32$1@dont-email.me> <3ihcmlx47d.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <107070d$3hvho$1@dont-email.me> <1071hb2$3qqje$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> <1071jbr$3ra8s$1@dont-email.me> <10746fg$h625$2@dont-email.me> <20250808081850.00002e14@gmail.com> <1075pla$ukab$1@dont-email.me> <20250808144937.000021b1@gmail.com> <10761aq$vv6o$3@dont-email.me> <10777f7$17kq4$8@dont-email.me> <6uqkmlxjb8.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <1079oe9$1ppd6$6@dont-email.me> <107ab26.3rg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <3rkmmlxplv.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <107cipt$2g8mr$9@dont-email.me> <107ghmk$3j56j$4@dont-email.me> <107kfi2$d4vh$21@dont-email.me> <107kma2$d4vh$36@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net ZeHThI2hdCeMx4oU7+bOFgDBFOqGDadDIexnXyJXVn5F/sD+NO Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZNXtOco41mYVumbJ9eg69qp6j3M= sha256:dF1ZzFdr/HYDAmnFEoIyTbU1EIRZpImgluTr1qkt258= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-CA, es-ANY In-Reply-To: <107kma2$d4vh$36@dont-email.me> Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:71065 alt.comp.os.windows-11:22115 On 2025-08-14 14:54, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 14/08/2025 13:08, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> On 2025-08-14 12:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 14/08/2025 10:27, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>> >>>> The POTS network has been decommissioned in Spain, completely. At >>>> least in Telefónica, the major player, and nobody else installed >>>> their own copper pairs. It is fibre to the home and VoIP, using >>>> local power. So with a mains power failure it goes down. >>>> >>> Unless you stop expecting someone else (like the EU..LOL) to supply >>> it with backup, and install your own batteries inverters and diesel >>> generators >>> >>> In the UK fibre is powered at the far end by fully 24x7 reliable >>> power supplies,. If I want to use it, I merely have to install >>> something similar here >> >> I do have an UPS at the router, which died soon. I don't know what >> failed sooner, the fibre or the ups. Supposedly the fibre is all >> optics to the exchange and should have survived. >> > Well it is not supposedly, It is fact. > > Whether the exchange was simply not bothering  to comply with national > regulations, or whether there simply *are* no national regulations, is a > moot point. > > You could have checked your UPS with a voltmeter. If you cared > > But far easier to complain about how 'they' aren't looking out for your > every comfort, eh? The UPS was UP. The email sent by the UPS daemon seconds after power failure failed to arrive till the power came back hours later, despite the router having power for at least a few minutes (neon was lighted) and responding to pings. I did not check the land line phone. Stop being insulting and assuming the worst of people. It is very easy to say _now_ that I could have done this or that. The fact is that with POTS the phone service was assured for days even in the case of a full power failure, and now with the replacement, be it fibre or cellular, service is not assured. For whatever reasons. Many people could not phone emergencies with their mobile phones. Just a fact. People were trapped in elevators, and could not phone for rescue. Instead they shouted, and neighbours kindly went even on foot to the elevator office to ask for help instead. I'm not demanding anything, just stating a proven fact. -- Cheers, Carlos E.R.