Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 Subject: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Date: 7 Aug 2025 20:22:03 GMT Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <106mke5$1di32$1@dont-email.me> <106ukm1$35g8p$3@toylet.eternal-september.org> <106v67a$1cgol$1@news1.tnib.de> <106vfvv$3bpmd$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <106vi4r$3c9cr$2@dont-email.me> <3ihcmlx47d.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <107070d$3hvho$1@dont-email.me> <1071hb2$3qqje$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> <1071ime$3qrld$2@dont-email.me> <20250807085908.000006a3@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net XnXt87v9JTqLjRl/Hsc0MwzhXMd9cMHgnqw5mpnwY06jV8CqMD Cancel-Lock: sha1:yPT4f/G4C3GQ3LCX25G9mDu8fQU= sha256:XbBsLEd6HtTTVPKUufiwa3KKgkeM97sTNlWpSpjZ2hE= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:70572 alt.comp.os.windows-11:21770 On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 08:59:08 -0700, John Ames wrote: > On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 06:56:14 -0000 (UTC) > Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> Ironic, isn’t it, that its CP/M predecessor moved on to multiuser/ >> multitasking operation (MP/M, Concurrent CP/M), but MS-DOS, supposedly >> an improvement on the older product, never did. > > By the time MS-DOS had established itself as the de facto standard for > the office, the model of small-business computing based around multiple > dumb terminals connected to a single computer was on the wane; it stuck > around in larger enterprise for another 10-15 years and in call centers > for longer, but general office computing was already moving towards > either sharing access to a single machine (if demand was low) or just > giving people or departments their own dedicated machines. Wouldn't > truly take off 'til hardware costs made small-office networking > affordable and the software evolved to match, but nobody needed time- > shared DOS like they needed MP/M. Until Windows for Workgroups (3.11) Microsoft never considered people might want to network computers. I worked on a project that used an AT supervising a number of XTs that were controlling environmental test chambers but the network was proprietary. For plain vanilla 3.1 you needed the third party Trumpet Winsock to get a TCP/IP stack. When MS finally got around to it they based WSA on BSD Sockets with their own weird little touches that exist to this day.