Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: VMS Date: 28 Jul 2025 04:58:27 GMT Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <20250625093213.00002ec2@gmail.com> <20250625094418.00007fd2@gmail.com> <105iv02$3cuhr$2@dont-email.me> <20250721091242.00007573@gmail.com> <20250721133148.00007cc6@gmail.com> <105pv2t$77mv$1@dont-email.me> <20250723080407.00004a8a@gmail.com> <105ri4r$ed5t$1@dont-email.me> <20250723142845.000033ee@gmail.com> <105rr9k$fslf$1@dont-email.me> <20250724080540.00004f57@gmail.com> <20250724150625.00005a29@gmail.com> <105v6t4$1rec2$1@dont-email.me> <20250725103940.0000789d@gmail.com> <106317o$1ghot$1@dont-email.me> <10631no$1fb33$2@dont-email.me> <1064r6l$2s0gs$2@dont-email.me> <10651hc$1qlv3$6@dont-email.me> <10667la$35rkf$3@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net uLjEtqj+hRa1A3mCuEcKWwCEF1P4VDVXcuvDKoFYYj+r8EIMXR Cancel-Lock: sha1:+u3cWX/B5VqIDbJQJ4qqcAtzrQw= sha256:YsFHZ2IaFK3Pk9JirAWHhSEwguI+PrKx1KL8Wb9qgIc= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:69991 On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 22:02:19 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 12:11:40 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> The company had a NO BUGS ALLOWED policy. 'Zero Tolerance'. > > One easy way to achieve that is not to have a bug-reporting mechanism. At one time we had a very diligent QA manager. I think a large part of it was she thought she would be blamed for any bugs that made it to the wild but she wouldn't sign off on releases. It was a great CYA move but it always left you wondering if there were bugs she knew about or if she thought there might be bugs, To her credit years after she left we had The Release That Shall Not Be Mentioned. We did a M$ style rollback after the canaries on the first few sites died and skipped to a new minor version number. The funny part is after consigning 4.3 to the memory hole and going to 4.4 we never went past 4.4. Even though the version numbers were displayed on the title bar no client ever asked why they had been on 4.4 for years. The stuff worked and that was all they were concerned about. It made the builds a lot easier, just keep bumping the patch number, leave the major, minor, and revision numbers alone.