Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Date: 11 Jun 2025 03:25:33 GMT Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: <101tsvg$en0o$1@paganini.bofh.team> <6843417c$0$8575$426a34cc@news.free.fr> <20250609093835.0000784c@gmail.com> <1027nss$ptre$6@dont-email.me> <1029fb5$19mj3$3@dont-email.me> <1029h19$pc00$1@news1.tnib.de> <102a7vb$1gfus$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net S2dL2Ezb+m0P4ump1mwEyA9tQVV985YLBh1qeS5Ptz2Uor92XJ Cancel-Lock: sha1:f26oDHcxAsaeXYq6KquCjT8mgtQ= sha256:WLqY4k0o2LyhXMeObjZMl8+vtUl/PvRHyD08tQHL0ME= User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:68664 On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 22:27:07 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2025-06-10, Marc Haber wrote: > >> Rich wrote: >>>The real world equivalent would be if one's car's UI completely changed >>>with each new model year. One year there is a steering wheel, on the >>>left, with the gearshift in the center console. The very next year >>>there's a pilot joystick instead of a steering wheel, and the shifter >>>is now a motorcycle style twist handle at the top of the joystick. The >>>third year you get "feet operated steering pedals" and "hand powered >>>brakes" via a center console lever, with the gearshift being a slide >>>lever embedded in the door, etc. >> >> Gearshift? Only cars from the last millennium have that. >> >> Greetings Marc > > I had no idea automatic transmission had taken over vehicles worldwide. > So is that now prevalent in new cars even in places where automatic > transmissions were an unusual sight? It's been coming for a long time. My father did not like ATs and even in the '60s it was difficult to find a manual transmission outside of sport cars. After he died my mother went shopping for a new car. This was a woman who had taught her father to drive back in the '20s and I had to convince her she could drive an automatic. She caught on fast and also appreciated power steering and power brakes. I prefer manuals and my first Toyota Yaris was MT. when it was totaled by a snowplow I found I would have to order on to get a manual. I placed the order but had second thoughts that night. Japan was in the middle of their nuclear meltdown and it wasn't clear if they would ever build another car so I took what was on the lot. I like 2-door hatchbacks, another thing that doesn't sell in the USA. In 2020 when I brought the car in for an airbag recall I saw a leftover 2018. since Toyota no longer sells the Yaris in the US I bought it but it's AT too. My '86 F150 is a manual but pickups were pickups back then, not SUVs with a mostly unused cargo bed. I don't know if they are all ATs now. Of course ATs are different animals now than the 2 speed PowerSlides from the '50s. Then there was the Presto-Matic in my '49 Chrysler New Yorker. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presto-Matic