Re: New WiFi adapter

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: New WiFi adapter
Date	2025-06-04 20:21 +0000
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On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 20:47:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

>  04/06/2025 20:37, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 01:14:15 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>> 
>>>     Remember all the great IBM-PC/BIOS routines ?
>>>     Made it EASY to write full-screen editors. You had to have the
>>>     "Technical Reference Manual" to know all that stuff, however I did
>>>     have that ....
>> 
>> And everyone felt compelled to write an editor...
> 
> Fuck that. Wordstar had been available on CP/M for ages, and was better
> than vi.
> So when it turned up on DOS everyone grabbed a pirate copy. 'joe'
> emulates it these days for Linux
>

Definitely. WordStar was bundled on the Osborne 1 CP/M I bought in '81 and 
hat is what I used. When I moved to DOS I used Brief which was designed to 
be a programming editor.

The 'write an editor' think could be traced to the programming books of 
the day. They tended to use string handling in their examples and it 
followed 'Oh, I can write an editor'. 

I wrote cross-assemblers when they weren't available or expensive but I 
was happy with available editors. I did not use vi. Vim (vi improved) is a 
hell of an improvement but that was more than 10 years in the future. 

vi in most Linux distros is a symlink to Vim so many who claim to use vi 
aren't using the original Bill Joy version.

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