Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Date: 13 Feb 2025 07:22:17 GMT Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <655acbf6-05e5-69ff-8a44-9f7075aafa2e@example.net> <9RycneStTKjZETf6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@earthlink.com> <73idnXWOHfZXYTb6nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@earthlink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net wOFiO7biLuzn4JxDKsFsAAJFtf8Tyd8D8mJZtjLWknyJPVqcMz Cancel-Lock: sha1:MYtS9zaZE5HLoiAi1SSmIqNWdeg= sha256:C5A99uRv/1ahKpezCvcWAF+Av7P33do5tKlcLendXdI= User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:65482 comp.os.linux.advocacy:685784 On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 16:56:06 -0500, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote: > On 2/12/25 1:58 PM, rbowman wrote: >> On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 09:08:35 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote: >> >>> Lisa was a flop because it didn't make any kind of sense to ask people >>> to spend as much on a computer than they would on a car. It was a very >>> capable machine, and it was nice to discover that the Lisa went on to >>> be refurbished as popular Macs in certain areas of the United States, >>> but you can't ask people to spend as much as they were asking. As for >>> the Mac 128K, I admit that if I were buying a computer in 1984, I >>> would have wanted one. Of course, I would probably very quickly buy a >>> hard disk and a RAM upgrade for it. If I were buying in 1985 though, >>> I'm certain that I would have opted for either an Atari or an Amiga >>> though... probably the Amiga if I had witnessed their impressive tech >>> demo. It wouldn't have mattered to me, as a teacher, if it didn't have >>> a serious reputation or not. >> >> The original Mac toasters had one unique feature -- they met the >> TEMPEST requirements of the day. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_(codename) >> >> PCs leaked like a sieve. Most still do. Back in the toaster's day >> cybersecurity was worrying about Boris and Natasha squatting out in the >> bushes with their radio gear. > > > Well - they DID sometimes ! That was the ironic part. During the same period when we worried about Russkies in the bushes, spies sorting through the dumpsters, and were paranoid enough to remove all printer ribbons when an IBM CE was coming, they discovered Walker and his band of merry men. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Anthony_Walker DISCO (Defense Industrial Security Clearance Office, not the lousy music) soiled themselves and immediately stopped issuing security clearances.