Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Date: 10 Dec 2024 19:50:03 GMT Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <33442f75-5afe-ce6b-d5b2-19efc78a72d3@example.net> <2c1fb128-258b-7848-e896-3246674d460f@example.net> <2d814efc-b5f8-a1f9-d273-77016cb3cbae@example.net> <9cGcnY0c8c3LA8_6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com> <6465d1f8-6fab-e3bd-0345-86011937364d@example.net> <1bd67a87-bbc0-3268-5475-42b3cda34440@example.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net yKYRo6zWZowA1gN4gvehEAgvTgn94HDiHNmuC6bqfFcqpcBBX3 Cancel-Lock: sha1:1gotX0miZBOyYXxN26sgKuffFNs= sha256:WXl+6DMDU/2eIFY6PJVLE1bX1yfJtDgYUNbdpDM06PY= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:62146 On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 09:58:17 +0100, D wrote: > This is a very interesting theory! I would _love_ to do that kind of > experiment, tring out some psylocybin on hard core atheists, or even > better, not even telling them what the test is about, and see the > reaction and what they experience. > > Then running the same tests on atheists who know the experiments is > about finding god, to compare. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKUltra "The Army was subject to the testing of LSD which occurred in three phases. The first phase included over 1,000 American soldiers who willingly volunteered for testing of chemical warfare experiments. Phase two had 96 volunteers who were induced with LSD in evaluation of the possibility of intelligence uses of the drug. The third phase included Projects THIRD CHANCE and DERBY HAT which conducted experiments on 16 unwitting nonvolunteer subjects that after receiving LSD were interrogated as a part of operation field tests.[1]" "At the invitation of Stanford psychology graduate student Vik Lovell, an acquaintance of Allen Ginsberg, Ken Kesey volunteered to take part in what turned out to be a CIA-financed study under the aegis of MKUltra,[60] at the Menlo Park Veterans' Hospital[61][62] where he worked as a night aide. [63] The project studied the effects of psychoactive drugs, particularly LSD, psilocybin, mescaline, cocaine, AMT and DMT on people.[64]" Kesey said to himself "Man, this is some REALLY good shit!"