Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Date: 8 Dec 2024 02:06:24 GMT Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <495550f7-796e-4414-67ae-26d3f8ba16f1@example.net> <33442f75-5afe-ce6b-d5b2-19efc78a72d3@example.net> <2c1fb128-258b-7848-e896-3246674d460f@example.net> <2d814efc-b5f8-a1f9-d273-77016cb3cbae@example.net> <9cGcnY0c8c3LA8_6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com> <6465d1f8-6fab-e3bd-0345-86011937364d@example.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net gj4+1ez9zRzvr/FoxJc/MQ//hkR28+atHY2zG8lAkCHfxjiQT0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:1sgP0lpiWnJyRa3eDIDENAazk1Q= sha256:fTsIKJVShWj2e7Gk5awAE/OGwzcvDQ6nYb3EuDXBC3E= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:61923 On Sat, 7 Dec 2024 23:07:50 +0100, D wrote: > I think it depends and can be anything from destroying it, shattering > your ego, > jarring it, or mildly "nudging" it. Maybe psychological illness is like > the gearbox getting stuck, and the mild jarring, or hit of the drug, > might shake it a bit so it becomes unstuck? Back in the day I did acid of dubious quality twice. The first was a bad experience, the second was better. I was alone for the second attempt. > True. I often think that the reason christianity banned suicide was that > life was so bad in the middle ages, that if people truly believed they > would go to heaven after death, they would all commit suicide, if the > church didn't forbid that way of "hacking the system"! I don't think it was all that bad. People raised families and carried on obviously or we wouldn't be having this discussion. I'm reading a series by James L. Nelson set in 852 A.D. when Dubh Linn was a Norse settlement. It follows a small band whose leader only wants to grab some Irish loot, go home to Norway, and spend his golden years farming. It doesn't work out that was of course. One of the band is a berserker. He gets morose after battles when he survives since he wants a heroic death in battle to attract the Valkyries to take him to Valhalla. The Christians had to make a few edits to sell their goods to a warrior culture. I think I've mentioned Russell's 'The Germanization of Early Medieval Christianity' and the Heliand, a Saxon poem that had Jesus as the drighten of a war band heading to the hill fort of Jerusalem. The massacre of the Saxons didn't get the job done so they had to come up with a better spin. We still honer Woden's Day and turning the other cheek never got very popular.