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On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 23:52:15 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


> In the spring of 1820, God the Father and Jesus Christ appeared to
> Joseph Smith as he prayed in a grove of trees near his home in western
> New York. This event is known as the First Vision.
> 
> Yeah. Right.

Then there were the VR glasses:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urim_and_Thummim_(Latter_Day_Saints)

There must have been something in the water of western New York, possibly 
a hallucinogen exposed by digging the Erie Canal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burned-over_district

Most of the theological novelties didn't survive. That's been a lifelong 
topic of curiosity for me. Why do some survive while others fail? Smith 
and his followers were driven out of New York and Smith was eventually 
killed in Illinois. It wasn't an auspicious beginning. 

> Actually I rather like Mormons. They are rather innocent not usually
> very bright, but very nice to each other.

Of you want Mitt Romney, you're welcome to him. They do have well 
organized social lives. My brother lived in Utah for 20 years. His wife 
was the daughter of a Baptist minister and while not exactly a pariah 
found little fellowship. She referred to the experience as 'camping out'.