Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.politics,alt.economy,alt.business,talk.politics.misc Subject: Re: Nvidia Replaces Intel on DOW Date: 6 Nov 2024 00:26:07 GMT Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <-zmdnTyXmLloRrr6nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com> <20241104102013.0000358c@gmail.com> <72ydnQCWxp1u8rT6nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@earthlink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net JOb7t4XO8TTZjrLhZ21eogQwpdolxCEzL1mUeLLfes9Xx0x5oo Cancel-Lock: sha1:vjrtm5iNmzicaoehoQKjYIJU4Sg= sha256:J876ND7/4LMkd5oSh+stiSEoEuGNDmrZmZCgEY0guk8= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:60667 alt.business:10458 talk.politics.misc:1165599 On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 23:38:55 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 05/11/2024 20:31, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> On the other hand, I recently re-worked a summary report program to >> build the entire table in memory and spew it out after all input files >> had been read, because I realized that these days, given the finite >> volume of data I'm working with, I effectively _do_ have unlimited >> memory. > > I have a friend who does maths research, involving operations on > gigantic matrices. > His original code, some of which is assembler to access some obscure > INTEL instructions to do with vector maths, was designed to use 128GB. > On someone else's extremely expensive computer in a far away land. > That is no longer an option, and he spent last week rewriting it to suit > the biggest motherboard he can easily obtain. > > Typically a run takes several months. The power usage on the computer is > about 500W. > > So people can still find ways to push the limits of computers. AI is great for that. You know you're in trouble when companies are trying to buy nuclear plants to keep the lights in in the computing centers. It doesn't get as much mention yet but all that energy eventually becomes heat. Is the answer something like the Seabrook nuke where you can use the Atlantic to keep the processors cool? When they were building Seabrook one of the spins was that the lobsters would love their cozy new homes.