Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Date: 31 Oct 2024 00:16:44 GMT Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <2ItTO.338744$v8v2.95701@fx18.iad> <199392d0-9628-8177-2f3b-35b23a721dd4@example.net> <086607f1-2283-f7fb-ddf9-ac4766b06530@example.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net EHyD5CVkBoKe9DgGJ0futQC4TvwwRoNcguB4Qj6UotqpVAMNbC Cancel-Lock: sha1:yfLCfVgSeNaQH6KyxGmHWcjhP54= sha256:PYyQhQeONUOQtDSpXxk1M7eKrm2oFZm4Sq/cetOBnRs= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Xref: csiph.com alt.folklore.computers:228335 comp.os.linux.misc:60256 On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 18:33:03 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> We will descend into near barbarism under Islam ... > > Just a note that Islam played its part in propagating the culture of > learning inherited from the ancient Greeks, back when the Christians’ > idea of “learning” was making elaborately-illuminated copies of their > holy books. Spengler saw the Abbasid Caliphate as the late phase of the Arabian culture before it devolved into the Seljuk empire. Al-Andalus is long gone to be replaced by fellaheen with suicide vasts.