Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Jules Verne and SciFi Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2025 22:57:25 +0200 Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <9fjemlxbio.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10a8mbc$1q6g1$8@dont-email.me> <10afh2l$3hcc0$1@dont-email.me> <10ag0tf$3l3a7$1@dont-email.me> <10agpn4$3qpp8$2@dont-email.me> <10ah9i6$3v8gp$1@dont-email.me> <10ai0bj$599f$1@dont-email.me> <7ZYzQ.83$Qzga.44@fx10.ams1> <87wm5qckd0.fsf@parhasard.net> <10atv47$2v2db$1@dont-email.me> <10av7su$3a5lo$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net LjkZfym5MumUZm8FvyEcYwYSCpxKgP4LNaTRWFjaQkaysEv2mu X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:Vv3MK3Fnj8r7CDM4RKmwYOHaEzI= sha256:rRscrIPKMpWBYKzfStn1U7DlYt+YMY7AJzUpoiwWRJA= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:75129 On 2025-09-24 04:20, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 24 Sep 2025 08:44:44 +1000, Peter Moylan wrote: > >> The advantage of having lots of books is that there are always some I >> haven't read for a long time. > > I read 'Robur the Conqueror' a while back but I'd never read it. It was > written in 1886, 'Five Weeks in a Balloon' from 1863 was one of Verne's > earliest but he seems to have lost interest in balloons. Robur makes fools > of members of a balloon club with his heavier-than-air invention. From the science fiction point of view 'Five Weeks in a Balloon' is a disaster. First he describes using an electric battery to separate water into water and oxygen. Ok, fine. Then he burns that to heat the hydrogen of the globe. Ok... but that is against the principle that energy can not be created nor destroyed, only transformed. He can get the same effect by directly heating the hydrogen inside the globe with an electric resistance (as long as it doesn't glow red, LOL). I take SciFi as following science rules. If a law is broken, it has to be explained how. Usually some law is broken, like having superluminal speed crafts, but is an assumption they make. But well, Verne was not yet SciFi, was maybe the best precursor. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;