Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E. R." Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Short name for USB Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 12:52:39 +0100 Lines: 87 Message-ID: References: <1crvbgma7vk4x$.dlg@10235314.user.individual.de> <2iednQq3V55KvHb-nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@earthlink.com> <9kh1cjxqrj.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <03q6cjx1bt.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net wfL4NkD+ylagklekaST6+gCuc681vRjG0qNOSUfYxpsbqN0wS7 Cancel-Lock: sha1:se4rjr0GjFJIw/jjb0HRVmFEDls= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Content-Language: en-CA In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:37210 On 2023-02-21 06:21, 25B.E866 wrote: > On 2/20/23 5:28 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> On 2023-02-20 03:28, 25B.E866 wrote: >>> On 2/18/23 6:40 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2023-02-18 06:56, 25B.R866 wrote: >>>>> On 2/16/23 6:45 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>> On 2023-02-16 07:36, 25B.R867 wrote: >> >> >>>>>    And if you're gonna make RAID arrays ... the OpenSUSE YAST >>>>>    GUI makes it super super super EASY and clear. The CL utils >>>>>    and config-file edits are a NIGHTMARE by comparison. A couple >>>>>    of years ago I had to do it The Hard Way on Centos. NEVER >>>>>    AGAIN BABY !!! Took a half a fuckin' DAY to get everything >>>>>    in order and underway ! Steps, more steps and MORE fuckin' >>>>>    steps asking obscure questions and needing obscure >>>>>    syntax and nums ............... >>>> >>>> Well, openSUSE is removing functionality from YaST. Recently they >>>> removed the sound module. Next are the DNS, DHCP, and web server >>>> modules. >>> >>> >>>    And someone was complaining when I started trashing OpenSUSE :-) >> >> I only complain when the trashing is incorrect. >> >>> >>>    I'd say it reached its zenith about two years ago. Downhill >>>    from there. More and more and more bits MIA ... >>> >>>    I used to rec it pretty heavily, called it a "Cadillac distro". >>> >>>    No more. >>> >>>    So sad. >>> >>>    Not sure if it's because of the RH/IBM thing or whether the >>>    maintainers just got lazy. >> >> Enterprise decisions. > > >   Translation - "The Pointy-Haired Bosses"  :-) > >   DUMP 'em ... just keep the good hacks ! > >   Frankly, an "open" OS really shouldn't have any >   pointy-haired bosses, just the tekkies who know >   how it works. COMMERCIAL SUSE ... that's a whole >   different animal. I'm talking of the commercial SUSE. Maybe there is some crucial information about SUSE - openSUSE relationship you don't understand. SUSE (the enterprise) makes two Linux releases: desktop and server (SLES/SLED) openSUSE (community) makes two Linux releases: Tumbleweed (aka Factory), a rolling release that runs the newest versions with automated testing. Leap, the stable release, takes the entire core from the enterprise or commercial version, unchanged. The rpms are physically the same, not rebuilt. On a previous iteration they shared source. The packages that SLES doesn't have but openSUSE wants, are built by the community, like KDE/Plasma. This has consequences. The core package versions in Leap are "ancient". Now, SUSE (enterprise) decided that after release 5, (15.5) they are changing the model entirely to ALP. Their decision. So openSUSE has to decide what to do. Tumbleweed continues, but Leap disappears or becomes Alp based. Details basically unknown and undecided. The people that do the decision are only the people that do the packaging, as volunteers. No bosses here at all. Not even the wide community has a say. -- Cheers, Carlos E.R.