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On Mon, 5 Aug 2024, CrudeSausage wrote:

> On 2024-08-05 8:03 a.m., chrisv wrote:
>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>> 
>>> It's not unusual to see
>>> ten or twenty-year-old gas-powered cars on the road. Meanwhile, your
>>> electric car, once it's ten, becomes completely useless because nobody
>>> will be willing to pay the $10,000 or more to replace the battery in
>>> addition to what it costs just to buy the used car.
>> 
>> Good point.  I hadn't thought of that.
>> 
>> "We're saving the planet now!"  Not!
>
> A counterargument can be made in that when a gas-powered car reaches ten 
> years of age, it will likely require the replacement of a transmission. If 
> you own an Infiniti, as an example, their transmissions are CVT and can't be 
> repaired. If yours wasn't maintained properly, it will require a replacement 
> which will cost a minimum of around $7k.
>
> However, most cars don't use a CVT and in the case of Toyota and Honda, their 
> CVTs can go two decades without requiring any kind of expensive intervention. 
> This is never going to be the case with an EV. At ten years, no matter who 
> you bought your EV from, that car is likely to be parked in a graveyard until 
> it rusts away naturally... which will probably take a while since most cars 
> are now using galvanized steel.
>

My father and I (who share a gasoline car, how's that for _real_ green!;) 
) have always driven Renault or Volvo and we've had them about 15 years or 
so and there never was any transmission problems.

The problems I can think of have been mostly related to the electrical 
system (windows, warning lights not shutting off etc.). Once the handbrake 
got stuck also. Otherwise, the cars have been a dream to own and drive for 
up to 15 years which is the point at which we usually sell them and buy 
1-3 year old car.