Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.usage.english Subject: Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 11:53:34 +0100 Lines: 137 Message-ID: References: <10ocqti$4fas$3@dont-email.me> <10oi310$1r715$1@dont-email.me> <10oib3b$1ts7h$11@dont-email.me> <10oibv7$1un4g$1@dont-email.me> <10oj22f$24vbn$1@dont-email.me> <10oj3l6$256in$4@dont-email.me> <10okrlk$2pjmn$1@dont-email.me> <10ol0lg$2r7ip$1@dont-email.me> <10p39oc$4b96$1@dont-email.me> <10p3k4q$8394$2@dont-email.me> <1rs0axa.l2ss0oqt3hd9N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <10p66qd$12kpm$1@dont-email.me> <10p789f$3unfc$1@dont-email.me> <10p8i8m$1ro00$1@dont-email.me> <10p932h$2147v$2@dont-email.me> <10pa1dv$2d5dl$6@dont-email.me> <10pa6el$2f963$2@dont-email.me> <5PGcnQm5n5eAYiX0nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> <10pb5r2$2obtv$13@dont-email.me> <4luo8mxm8o.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10pd71s$3grlr$1@dont-email.me> <1rs7tbh.gpe5481mficwpN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net N97aAL0nZAtGd5sStgHAKA8Brm3l2WqGZflGfEMH9lepG5QLJu X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:PA68EVaAWW+euIyvCwSLRzA6fik= sha256:ldj+Jcyuam4yLQ5HxWmZAQSOfyB+PM8RigrN6pFT7mI= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: <1rs7tbh.gpe5481mficwpN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> X-Leafnode-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:83577 alt.usage.english:1140229 On 2026-03-19 11:48, J. J. Lodder wrote: > Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >> On 3/17/26 20:22, rbowman wrote: >>> On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 22:45:40 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> >>>> On 2026-03-17 10:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> On 17/03/2026 07:13, c186282 wrote: >>>>>> So Trump needs to go for everything we need NOW. >>>>> >>>>> He doesn't have any cards left to play... >>>> >>>> Destroying Cuba. >>> >>> I think the Cubans just did that. >> >> No the Cubans did not destroy Cuba. We did not destroy Cuba >> but have badly damaged it by cutting it out of normal commerce. >> Before Castro it was a winter vacation paradise but run by a dictator >> and the American Mob. >> >> Cuba has done more good than can be calculated by sending >> their home-grown physicians to 3rd world nations that needed >> help. > > Not just third world. > There are also many Cuban doctors, and other health staff, > working in (mostly southern) Italy and Spain. Not that I know. > Or maybe we should redefine 'third world', Q: Somebody has said that there are many Cuban doctors working in Spain and Italy. Is this true? ChatGPT: Short answer: **partly true, but easy to exaggerate**. There **are Cuban doctors working abroad all over the world**, including **some presence in Italy**, but **they are not numerous in Spain**, and overall Europe is a **minor destination** compared to Latin America or Africa. --- # ๐ŸŒ 1. The global picture (important context) Cuba has a long-standing program of sending doctors abroad: * Around **22,000โ€“24,000 Cuban doctors currently work in 50+ countries** ([Al Jazeera][1]) * Historically, **hundreds of thousands** have taken part in these missions ([Misiones][2]) ๐Ÿ‘‰ Most of them are in: * Latin America (e.g. Venezuela, Mexico) * Africa * Caribbean countries Europe is **not a major destination**. --- # ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น 2. Italy โ€” YES, but limited and recent Italy is one of the few European countries where this is clearly true: * In the region of Calabria, **about 400โ€“500 Cuban doctors** were brought in to support hospitals ([The Guardian][3]) * They were hired mainly because of **severe doctor shortages** ๐Ÿ‘‰ So: * Not โ€œmanyโ€ at national level * But **locally significant in specific regions** There were also **temporary deployments during COVID-19**, especially in northern Italy. --- # ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ 3. Spain โ€” generally NO (or very few) For Spain: * There is **no evidence of large Cuban medical missions like in Italy** * Spain does **not rely on Cuban doctors as a system** * Any Cuban doctors present are usually: * individual migrants * or doctors who revalidated their degree independently ๐Ÿ‘‰ So the claim that โ€œmany Cuban doctors work in Spainโ€ is **not really accurate**. --- # โš–๏ธ 4. Why people say this The idea comes from real but **misleading facts**: * Cuba is famous for exporting doctors worldwide * Cuban teams appeared in Europe during **COVID-19 emergencies** * Media coverage of Italy (Calabria) made it seem widespread ๐Ÿ‘‰ This can easily turn into the exaggerated claim: > โ€œEurope is full of Cuban doctorsโ€ (not true) --- # ๐Ÿง  Bottom line * โœ”๏ธ **Italy:** yes, a few hundred โ†’ noticeable but limited * โŒ **Spain:** no large presence * ๐ŸŒ **Globally:** many Cuban doctors abroad, but mostly outside Europe --- If you want, I can explain **why Cuba sends doctors abroad** (itโ€™s actually a big part of their economy and quite controversial). [1]: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/18/why-is-the-us-targeting-cubas-global-medical-missions?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Why is the US targeting Cuba's global medical missions?" [2]: https://misiones.cubaminrex.cu/en/articulo/cuba-sends-doctors-us-sends-sanctions?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Cuba Sends Doctors, the US Sends Sanctions" [3]: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/16/italy-calabria-cuban-doctors-public-health-system?utm_source=chatgpt.com "'Giving us oxygen': Italy turns to Cuba to help revive ailing ..." -- Cheers, Carlos. ES๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ, EU๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ;