Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2024 22:48:22 +0100 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: <1190130485.752353610.782141.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <38b4c4eb-2ab5-df94-0baa-c2d7fcdda60d@example.net> <0a299bb1-a543-4fc4-1d5f-44dc660bb256@example.net> <685000453.752623682.964071.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <451f3ed3-680f-4fa7-6ada-234110132590@example.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1429174"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="w/4CleFT0XZ6XfSuRJzIySLIA6ECskkHxKUAYDZM66M"; X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com alt.folklore.computers:228719 comp.os.linux.misc:60757 On Thu, 7 Nov 2024, Rich wrote: > In comp.os.linux.misc D wrote: >> Last, but not least, what is work? I'm sure that if you measure >> _effective_ work, you'll find the difference between a medieval >> peasant and a modern american far smaller, when coffee breaks, >> smoking breaks, vacations, are deducted. > > There is also a huge difference between 8hrs on a computer shuffling > electronic paper back and forth vs. 8hrs tending a farm's fields and > animals because those very fields and animals are all that stand > between you and starvation come the middle of Februrary when snow and > ice abound, but little plant life grows. > > Even modern jobs that are considered "manual labor" by today's > standards in the US are quite different vs. the mideval peasant who's > very survival into next summer depends upon being able to squeeze, and > preserve, enough food to survive through the long cold winter. > > Now, if you mean "time spent actually doing work", well the pessant > likely spent more time actually doing "work". > True.